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Old 02-20-2002, 04:11 PM   #1
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Linux ends in 2031?


I read probably a rumor that Linux/Unix will die in 2031. Because Linux use 32bits registers. Also the time represents in seconds, threrefore by 2031 the Linux will die becase of this problem, similar to 2k problem. True or Not?
 
Old 02-20-2002, 04:17 PM   #2
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Old 02-20-2002, 04:48 PM   #3
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Even if it were true and we only had 29 years to go and there's a new kernel out every month if not every other week... I don't think that problem would last long.

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Old 02-20-2002, 04:53 PM   #4
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well, aside from the fact that it's 29 freakin years away, linux is already beginning the transistion to 64-bit capability. the 2.5 experimental kernel is already being written to be able to use 64 bits, but the full transition probably won't be made for another versions or two.

we all know what a HUGE problem that y2k thing turned out to be ...
 
Old 02-20-2002, 04:56 PM   #5
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we will all have moved to (at least) 64 bit processors by then, which puts max int WAY out there.
 
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we will all have moved to (at least) 64 bit processors by then, which puts max int WAY out there.
lol - i'd be surprised if we're on anything less than 512+ bit by then. 2031 is a long way off.
 
Old 02-20-2002, 06:06 PM   #7
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by 2031, we won't be using what we call computers today... i am sure we will have something totally new and better...
 
Old 02-20-2002, 06:41 PM   #8
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Moore's law was that the number of transistors that we could cram on a die doubles every 18 months. Okay, this has actually been perverted into twice the Mhz every 18; for the luddite crowd that at least can understand Megahertz. Let's run with that...

29 Years = 348 months / 18 months = 19.33 iterations of doubling, or 2^19 the clock speed (Today's ballpark 1.8Ghz [Intel can bite me]) = 943718-ish Ghz! or... (remembering to divide by 1024!) 921 Thz Processor.

And I want an SMP board!

Cheers,

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Old 02-20-2002, 10:43 PM   #9
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And I want an SMP board!
erm... at that speed, you could probably emulate an smp from a up pretty easily. "ok... just PRETEND you have more processors..."

'course, you never know. you might need that second processer handy if the first one gets bored and decides to recalculate the vectors of every other neutrino since the big bang...
 
Old 06-18-2002, 09:41 PM   #10
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2031? ouch.
i think by that time, we'd all be the old geezers forming the next generation luddite crowd...
 
Old 06-19-2002, 03:20 AM   #11
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Well that basically depends on how the time is stored. Our applications store the time in microseconds since EPOCH in a double. That would mean that the maximum time would be:
19th January 2038 03:14:07.999999

As far as I know the kernel stores the time in 10ms increments so it can go a lot further then that before it gets problems.
 
Old 06-19-2002, 05:20 AM   #12
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seriously i don't think things will stay the same for 29 years
 
Old 06-19-2002, 05:32 AM   #13
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What about all those servers that were set up in 1999 that still wont need a reboot by 2031?
 
Old 06-19-2002, 06:02 AM   #14
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Back in 1991, I couldn't work out why businesses would want to have websites on the WWW when it was just a bunch of geeky students using it.

No offence intended but this thread shares my naiivety I think.

Bert
 
Old 06-19-2002, 07:58 AM   #15
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we all know what a HUGE problem that y2k thing turned out to be
Correction, we all know what a HUGE problem that y2k thing would have been had nobody done anything about it. That's one of the reasons why 2031 won't be a problem for Linux -- because somebody is doing something about it .
 
  


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