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Old 11-30-2013, 11:13 PM   #1
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linux download to big for disc


hello i have been trying to download unbuntu or kunbuntu for the last two days. the downloads are 704 to 705 or so mb but the cds i have are 700 mb so it wont fit on a disc. so i tried usb i cant get my computer to recagnize it as an os so that doesn't work i am very low in tech speak and don't understand what most people think of as basic so keep that in mind when answering. yes i tried to setup the bios to read the usb not sure oif i did that right or not i wpuld get an error no NDSTP or somethimg close to that. i have windows xp service pack 3. 512 mb of ram intel pentium 4 yes its old and very slow. i am lost and ready to give up
 
Old 11-30-2013, 11:59 PM   #2
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hello i have been trying to download unbuntu or kunbuntu for the last two days. the downloads are 704 to 705 or so mb but the cds i have are 700 mb so it wont fit on a disc. so i tried usb i cant get my computer to recagnize it as an os so that doesn't work i am very low in tech speak and don't understand what most people think of as basic so keep that in mind when answering. yes i tried to setup the bios to read the usb not sure oif i did that right or not i wpuld get an error no NDSTP or somethimg close to that. i have windows xp service pack 3. 512 mb of ram intel pentium 4 yes its old and very slow. i am lost and ready to give up
Have you tried to actually write the ISO to disc? The downloaded ISO files will fit on a 700mb disc.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 02:52 AM   #3
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Yes. I don't really have any burning programs so I tried to copy it to a CD using the wizard. it did me to reduce the size by 1.4 mbs to copy. I have vlc and Windows media player not sure how to do it with them
 
Old 12-01-2013, 03:25 AM   #4
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Yea, you will need a burning program. You cannot just save it to the CD as a file, it must be written as an ISO9660 filesystem, which the burner knows how to do.

Fortunately for me, but unfortunately for my ability to answer you, I have not used Windows since 2000 and I have no idea what program you would need for that. Perhaps someone with Windows knowledge can chime in here and help you out with that.
 
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:39 AM   #5
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try cdburnerxp
http://www.fileparade.com/listing/12...FUhxQgod_0UAsA
Ubuntu is too large for a cd tho.

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Old 12-01-2013, 05:30 AM   #6
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try cdburnerxp
http://www.fileparade.com/listing/12...FUhxQgod_0UAsA
Ubuntu is too large for a cd tho.
Really?! Not questioning you, just surprised. I assumed it would be an ISO intended for CD, but apparently not f you say so. if not then can you please tell the OP how to get/make a bootable installer for that.

Thanks
 
Old 12-01-2013, 05:57 AM   #7
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perhaps you can save it to usb with a suitable software (iirc, unetbootin can do it) and install from it. should be faster than cd.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:17 AM   #8
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hello i have been trying to download unbuntu or kunbuntu for the last two days. the downloads are 704 to 705 or so mb but the cds i have are 700 mb so it wont fit on a disc.
Argh, MB vs MiB makes life difficult again.

704MB = 671MiB.

But as far as I can see, the 12.04.X kubuntu vesions are actually 704MiB not 704MB....

You should be able to burn it to most CDs if you allow overburning.

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i have windows xp service pack 3. 512 mb of ram intel pentium 4 yes its old and very slow. i am lost and ready to give up
Dont even ty ubuntu (unity) or kubuntu (KDE). Both will run really badly on your system.

If you want a ubuntu version, xubuntu (Xfce) lubuntu (Lxde) or bodhi (E17) would run better on that system.

Last edited by cascade9; 12-01-2013 at 06:19 AM.
 
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #9
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cool thanks everyone i did try unetbootin and pendrive to load to usb but in the boot menu my system only reads xp as a choice. and when i changed to usb to boot from i get a missing NTFTSD or something like that and CTR ALT and DEL to reboot
I don't know what MiB is just thouht a live cd download should fit a cd silly me. As for unbuntu it was the one the tutorial i was fowling was based around so i thought i'd try it with so many different ones i have no idea witch is right for me. i will look at cascade9 suggestions.
 
Old 12-01-2013, 11:42 PM   #10
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If you use unetbootun to put iso on usb then you must direct it to the source iso, something like "user\Documents\Ubuntu also you must select correct drive to burn to.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 06:38 AM   #11
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Hi,

OP seems to be posting from a MS Windows machine. I suggest 'Imgburn' to burn the downloaded ISO image. You should burn at the lowest speed to insure a good burn, I use 4x for burn speed.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:36 PM   #12
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CDburnerXP is a rather good program

a bit slow on windows because it is a CygWin build

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I don't know what MiB
you can thank advertising executives and the PR department

1 kilobit is 1024 bits
1 Megabit is 1024 kilobits

it is not the LARGER number you get when you REPLACE 1024 with 1000

hence the Mb VS Mib

a Mib is using 1000
a Mb is using 1024 ( power of two 2^? )
2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384, 32768,........
 
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Argh, MB vs MiB makes life difficult again.

704MB = 671MiB.

But as far as I can see, the 12.04.X kubuntu vesions are actually 704MiB not 704MB....

You should be able to burn it to most CDs if you allow overburning.



Dont even ty ubuntu (unity) or kubuntu (KDE). Both will run really badly on your system.

If you want a ubuntu version, xubuntu (Xfce) lubuntu (Lxde) or bodhi (E17) would run better on that system.
I was dowloading ubuntu desktop amd64 & it's 708 MB, while the cd's are only 700MB
 
Old 12-03-2013, 07:48 AM   #14
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it is not the LARGER number you get when you REPLACE 1024 with 1000

hence the Mb VS Mib

a Mib is using 1000
a Mb is using 1024 ( power of two 2^? )
2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384, 32768,........
Wrong way round. MiB/Mebibyte is 1024/'power of 2', MB/Megabyte was redefined as 1000/'power of ten'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
 
Old 12-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #15
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We seem to have got a bit off topic, but that's LinuxQuestions!

Firstly, forget about Ubuntu. It's not going to run in 512MB.

As far as the installation medium is concerned, you have three choices:
1. Get a distro that fits onto the CD you've got: Bodhi, Exe, or Salix.
2. Get a DVD, even if you borrow one! Then you could use any of the above or the Xfce version of Mint.
3. Get a usb stick and copy onto that.

This site tells you how to burn a CD/DVD in windows. Remember that the .iso file you get is an image of the disk you're creating, so you don't want to simply copy that file to the disk.
http://www.tech-faq.com/how-to-burn-a-dvd.html

This one tells you how to create a bootable usb
http://www.shivaranjan.com/2008/09/0...-from-windows/

Salix is rather different in that you don't need any extra Windows software if you use a usb stick. You unpack the iso file onto the usb stick with 7-zip and there's a Windows program provided to make it bootable.
http://people.salixos.org/tsuren/doc...x_Live_USB_Key

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