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Old 12-07-2007, 02:46 AM   #31
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plug ins etc. Phantom


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cough, splutter.I did not convert to linux because I am some sort of MR. Windows lick dog puppy. You have miss read what I said, it might have been badly put but I don't expect that kind of response. Let me elaborate,money is spent on an easy to us system (windows) but how long does it take for you to earn it thus it is , perhaps, more economical to spend sometime to learn a less easy to use system that is free at the point of issue?
 
Old 12-07-2007, 07:51 AM   #32
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These are the threads in which I have to question the OP's intentions. In other words, makes me wonder if they are one of those "all hail billgatous of borg" people sent to disturb us.
Yeah. Hopefully Steve Ballmer will run out of pseudonyms soon.
 
Old 12-07-2007, 04:09 PM   #33
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Dear Sir,
cough, splutter.I did not convert to linux because I am some sort of MR. Windows lick dog puppy. You have miss read what I said, it might have been badly put but I don't expect that kind of response. Let me elaborate,money is spent on an easy to us system (windows) but how long does it take for you to earn it thus it is , perhaps, more economical to spend sometime to learn a less easy to use system that is free at the point of issue?
easy to use is relative, I find linux easy to use and so do alot of other people.
 
Old 12-08-2007, 10:05 PM   #34
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I figure if somebody is not willing to work on setting their computer up for a couple hours, they don't have any excuse for a non-working system. I personally find it easier to install and configure Linux than windoze.
 
Old 12-09-2007, 01:33 PM   #35
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Dear ace,
you have still missed the point but I think we are in ageement, essentially. Time and money being interchangable.
 
Old 12-09-2007, 02:23 PM   #36
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phantom_cyph: I have spent more than a couple of hours configuring various linux distros. The main excuse for non-working systems is non-compatible components (eg. broadcom) and non-working software - eg. the network wizard in Puppy can't handle WPA keys - that took well over 2 hours to diagnose until I scrapped the wizard and went via ndiswrapper AND windows drivers. I haven't found one distro yet where real audio streams can be played in the browser from the BBC website - that's taken well over 2 hours to try out. In fact I've shortcut the whole process by using vmware in Windows (that Os again!) to run each distro simply to test real audio functionality. I'm just dloading a Mint distro to try (as the flyer says it comes with real audio installed).

Fred and Caro: Vista came with the PC - so its cost will be amortized over time - effectively it's a freebie. Most Linuxes are free to download. I guess it's the way to go if you don't want or can't shell out for MS.

Generic: replies which state 'it works for me' are about as instructive to the learner as the cheese conversation - viz. A. "I don't like cheese", B. "Well, I like cheese" - repeat ad infinitum.
 
Old 12-09-2007, 03:10 PM   #37
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Oh dear again

Just tried Mint with built-in realplayer codec via mplayer. The BBC news page video clips DON'T play - the player works, stream loads and then reports Stopped. No video, no sound.

With VMware the test took about 10 mins - mainly Mint loading time.
Mint looks and feels nice - runs slow in VMware. But NOT usable for my purposes, sadly!

Has anyone got a distro working with BBC news clips working? Details please.
 
Old 12-09-2007, 06:12 PM   #38
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What is the BBC website?

I'm using arch linux, and mplayer has been able to play everything so far.
Let me see if mplayer will work with the BBC website.
 
Old 12-09-2007, 06:25 PM   #39
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Thanks .... here's the url:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/


Go midway down page on left to One Minute World News
 
Old 12-09-2007, 07:00 PM   #40
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Thanks .... here's the url:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/


Go midway down page on left to One Minute World News
I've tested my mplayer with bbc website above and I was able to play both formats, windows media and realplayer with no problems. When I install mplayer, this is all I did using arch linux.

pacman -S mplayer mplayer-plugin

It downloaded the dependencies and codecs. I don't know what codecs it uses but it does work. Most package managers from various distros have the mplayer and mplayer-plugin and dependencies, but not all package managers are not the same. Some have a little extra more and some have less.

So my arch linux with the mplayer/mplayer-plugin has past the test.

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Old 12-09-2007, 07:09 PM   #41
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Same here dv502, sometimes Arch makes it so easy it isn't fun anymore
 
Old 12-09-2007, 07:20 PM   #42
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Same here dv502, sometimes Arch makes it so easy it isn't fun anymore
And it's FAST....
 
Old 12-09-2007, 07:41 PM   #43
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Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa ... I beg forgiveness for the disrespect I showed to the almighty GNULinux. Come off it, please. Can't you lot take a little bit of cynicism?
Sure we can.
Good luck.
 
Old 12-10-2007, 09:55 AM   #44
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Interesting!

Well, I'll be blowed (not in that sense, either).

So, my next task will be to VMware Arch and give it a go.

Updates later today. Here's hopin' .....
 
Old 12-10-2007, 10:31 AM   #45
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Where is the full arch ISO

I can only find the core iso on the download sites.

Can you point me at the full iso for Arch.

[later ...]

Oh ... hang on! I've just found a VMware appliance for Arch. Gonna take ages to dload as it's 1.4 GB.

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