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Old 12-30-2012, 04:32 AM   #1
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Post Linux Dictionary Project Update: Documentation


I found that the Linux Dictionary Project is outdated and doesn't contain all the words from the Linux world I don't mean commands I mean any word related to Linux such as "Keyring" and "Linux Mint" and "Unity" and "Cinnamon" and "Mate" .So I made this thread to be a primer for updating the dictionary of Linux .
Linux-Dictionary
Linux-Dictionary.pdf
So if you found any world related to Linux which is not present in the dictionary please add it here with your explanation and other members will help explaining it.
thanks in advance for your help ..

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Old 12-31-2012, 05:52 AM   #2
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24 hours after my suggestion and nothing happens ..Does that mean that all newbies -like me- know every word related to Linux OS
so what does keyring mean? I really want to know. and what is the difference between key ring and password?
 
Old 12-31-2012, 08:22 AM   #3
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IMHO, because search engines have become extremely powerful tools in finding information scanning hundreds of websites with documentation, wikis, tutorials, etc, the linux dictionary project, while being an extremely valuable source of information, might have lost on importance.

Furthremore, because it's such a vast and dynamically changing area of knowledge, a person might be better off directly going to the source (ie. project documentation, etc.)

Just my 5p.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 10:33 AM   #4
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I appreciate your opinion but I think gathering information in one place will help Linux users migrating from windows who don't have the culture of "Googling".Don't forget that this book is open source not proprietary which means wider spread in the community of Linux.
Anyway I realize that I have to go through the battle alone.
But thanks for your interest.. really thanks.

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Old 12-31-2012, 06:10 PM   #5
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I appreciate your opinion but I think gathering information in one place will help Linux users migrating from windows who don't have the culture of "Googling".Don't forget that this book is open source not proprietary which means wider spread in the community of Linux.
Ok...so why don't you look it up, and contribute to the project, if it's important to you?? Why ask others to do it?
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Anyway I realize that I have to go through the battle alone.
But thanks for your interest.. really thanks.
Alone...except for all the thousands of others who have already contributed, and those who wrote that site, and came up with what's there already, you mean? I understand your desire, but sycamorex had the best answer, and the one that explains why the docs are outdated. You are always free to come up with a document of your own, update what's there, and help the community, if you think that's a need that needs to be addressed.

And bumping your own thread after 24 hours only served to remove it from the zero-reply list, which made it less visible to others.
 
Old 12-31-2012, 11:54 PM   #6
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Ok...so why don't you look it up, and contribute to the project, if it's important to you?? Why ask others to do it?
I already looked it up and found the meaning..I am not asking others to do it for me ..I just want anyone who didn't find a word in the linux dictionary to document it here ..it is not about me it about the others..I want others to help others in my thread.according to the sentence "If you didn't document it,you didn't do it" ..so I think there was misunderstanding.
today I will post my dictionary entry for "Keyring , "Window Manager" and "Desktop"
I am constructive not dependent.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 12:37 AM   #7
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Keyring
Keyring is a collection of components in GNOME that store secrets, passwords, keys such as GnuPG keys , certificates and make them available to applications.It is integrated with the user's login, so that their secret storage can be unlocked when the user logins into their session.GNOME keyring has a password store which GNOME applications can access to store and find passwords and other sensitive data.You can manage your keyring passwords by installing the program seahorse.install the latest version.
It is available in debian and debian-based distributions such as Ubuntu and Linuxmint

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Old 01-01-2013, 01:10 AM   #8
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If you have a Debian based distro open Synaptic and type in keyring into the search function. You will come up with quite a few results and some of them will say something like this.

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The MATE repository digitally signs its Release files. This package
contains the repository key used for that.
The above quote is for the package mate-archive-keyring.

So to me keyring means a digital signature which is the repository key.
 
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I already looked it up and found the meaning..I am not asking others to do it for me ..I just want anyone who didn't find a word in the linux dictionary to document it here ..
But documenting it here won't help anyone who isn't on this site. The dictionary is where people look (who don't use Google), and it's where you first looked too. Also, a thread in the forums won't be a good place for it long-term, as it will get too big (and also outdated), if it's updated and kept here for years. If you want to continue this, I'd send a message to the moderators/Jeremy, and ask if you can add entries to the Linux Wiki, which is on the right hand side of the page, under "Main Menu".
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it is not about me it about the others..I want others to help others in my thread.according to the sentence "If you didn't document it,you didn't do it" ..so I think there was misunderstanding.
No, your effort is laudable, and thank you.
 
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:10 PM   #10
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But documenting it here won't help anyone who isn't on this site. The dictionary is where people look (who don't use Google), and it's where you first looked too. Also, a thread in the forums won't be a good place for it long-term, as it will get too big (and also outdated), if it's updated and kept here for years. If you want to continue this, I'd send a message to the moderators/Jeremy, and ask if you can add entries to the Linux Wiki, which is on the right hand side of the page, under "Main Menu".
I want to continue this but I think this is the best place to take users opinions beacause I can't take users's opinions both experts like u and newbies from the wiki.I can take opinions from the thread and update/feed the wiki from what I have obtained from the thread.May be marking this thread "Sticky" will help.
BTW I am busy now but wait for my wonderful explanation for "Linux Desktop and Window Managers" ..I have simplified and to-the-point notes about that for beginners ..I need your opinion as an expert/Guru.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 03:19 PM   #11
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If you have a Debian based distro open Synaptic and type in keyring into the search function. You will come up with quite a few results and some of them will say something like this.

The above quote is for the package mate-archive-keyring.

So to me keyring means a digital signature which is the repository key.
I forget to mention yhe reference :
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/
I will deal with your definition and explain the difference tomorrow because I am very busy now ..
Thanks a lot for your interest.Your participation is very appreciated.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 06:04 PM   #12
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I forget to mention yhe reference :
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/
I will deal with your definition and explain the difference tomorrow because I am very busy now ..
Thanks a lot for your interest.Your participation is very appreciated.
You don't need to deal with it, my participation is purely to show you that your "keyring" post does not actually define keyring instead it defines a daemon
 
Old 01-01-2013, 07:26 PM   #13
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You don't need to deal with it, my participation is purely to show you that your "keyring" post does not actually define keyring instead it defines a daemon
this proves that google is not enough.My definition was based on simple "googling".so, for a beginner/newbie googling in not enough even to understand the basics of the keyring!!!
my definition is not final.that's why I made this thread..to seek your opinions and approvals for the definitions I generate..
So in this situation -keyring- "google won't be our friend"..YOU will be..
again your participation is appreciated..

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Old 01-01-2013, 09:40 PM   #14
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this proves that google is not enough.My definition was based on simple "googling".so, for a beginner/newbie googling in not enough even to understand the basics of the keyring!!!
my definition is not final.that's why I made this thread..to seek your opinions and approvals for the definitions I generate..
So in this situation -keyring- "google won't be our friend"..YOU will be..
again your participation is appreciated..
Google will never be enough. You are much better off using the tools that are in your system to build your dictionary for others to use. use the man pages and things like the Debian Documentation Browser before using Google.
 
Old 01-01-2013, 11:37 PM   #15
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It's a good idea to keep such definations/explainations at one place i.e. in a dictionary. Google do not guerentee the correct answers, and may lead to wrong interpretation, as we can see what @kareempharmacist found on google for keyring, was not correct. A dictionary will not only help a newbie, but experts also.

We can't simply rely on Internet, because most of the content we find there is based on different user's personal experiences/troubleshooting, but not from any standard sources.

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