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Old 04-15-2015, 10:40 AM   #16
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Do different USB connectors/cords handle only specific types of data? I assumed that a USB connection was a universal connection and transferred different data types universally. Not so?
usually but i have a couple of cheap usb fone chargers that only have 2 wires for charging instead of the usual 4 wires for charging and data transfer.

if your usb drive is usb-3 compatible and xandros was last release in 2007 (was usb-3 around back then ?) then maybe that is why its not working. it could honestly be a hundred variables; updating to a supported version would eliminate many variables so we wont be chasing ghosts.
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Is this a self powered USB external drive or does it have it's own power supply?
It has been reported that some systems cannot provide sufficient power through the USB port to adequately supply self powered external drives.
assuming since you are using xandros, your pc is probably too old to have a thunderbolt port (the port should have a picture of lightening next to it). those ports have increased power for more powerful hungry peripherals.

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Old 04-15-2015, 10:40 AM   #17
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So the external hdd is a self powered device. Perhaps you should try with a USB powered hub with an external power supply.
 
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:45 AM   #18
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1. I have 3 hdds: hitachi, 60 gig; western digital, 60 gig; the third I forget because it's in and its 120 gig.
Fluid fashion refers to the rate at which I can double click on the external icon and it opens. My purpose is to copy files onto my desktop hdd. But with the freezing, that is almost impossible. I can do this quickly and efficiently with WinXP (which I loathe). Which is why I am persisting to learn Linux.
3. Oh yes: the data structure of Windows. Well, my understanding was that Win98 was Fat. WinXP is NTFS. So with that as a basis, I believed there was a structure to know about. I now understand that the structure is perhaps and open structure and can be defined by different operatives.
 
Old 04-15-2015, 10:59 AM   #19
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Your Dell C840 has been reported to have a problem with self powered USB external drives. http://en.community.dell.com/support...3518/t/4594195

Edit - I did read your other post. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...dd-4175539682/

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Old 04-15-2015, 01:14 PM   #20
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My guess (and that's all I can do from the information provided) is that you may need to load, onto Linux, the code to handle NTFS.
The disk is probably formatted from your prior usage of the device as a Windows system, and it has NTFS (but maybe FAT).
So, we must load the handlers for ntfs onto your brand of Linux that you're using. Also, in general - for troubleshooting - if you've gone through four cables with the same results, it's probably not the cable.

It could also be that you've got no device drivers for usb on the Linux OS that you're using. But, I kind of doubt it.

So, open up a thread or search what's here already on how to load the NTFS drivers onto your Linux system. If that doesn't work - repeat the process (opening up a thread) and ask how to load the FAT32 drivers onto your Linux system. One of those should work.

If not, we need to start troubleshooting whether or not the USB device is being seen at all on the Linux system, by checking in /var/log/messages to see if you see any events in the log file when you plug/unplug the USB device.

Still, the most likely issue, in my opinion, is that the drive is formatted NTFS and you can't read that with your Linux OS right now, and it needs to be addressed.

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Old 04-17-2015, 05:36 AM   #21
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:28 AM   #22
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If I'm reading this right, your laptop only has USB 1.1 and cannot supply enough power to use external harddrives by itself. Even if that isn't the problem, USB 1.1 is slow.
 
  


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