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Old 08-24-2003, 07:06 PM   #16
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i've noticed that most of the threads concerning "..when will linux be embraced by the public and be more user friendly..." assume that this is the goal. for me, i enjoy the fact that linux is used by the more technically advanced (for the most part...most others are scared off by the use of the terminal) and that when i have questions i can almost always find someone who is knowledgeable and willing to help.

linux as a "mainstream" os is not very appealing, to me at least. but, then again, i think i enjoy learning the fastest way to accomplish tasks rather than the point click click grunt click approach.

here's hoping that as linux evolves it holds on to the very properties that differentiate it from other "mainstream" osystems.

just my $0.02.

Last edited by lyceum; 08-24-2003 at 11:23 PM.
 
Old 08-24-2003, 07:46 PM   #17
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That is indeed a very positive wish. Hope this comes true for the overall benefit of everyone concerned.

Vijay
 
Old 08-24-2003, 09:58 PM   #18
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One thing that's nice about Linux is you can set someone up where they don't even know there's a command-line.

Linux, being patterned after Unix, will always have a powerful command-line interface. At least I hope. Companies like Red Hat and SuSE are moving towards all administration from GUI's.
 
Old 08-24-2003, 10:47 PM   #19
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I think Linux is an easy operating system (to use that is, not to fix).

The main reason most people think it's hard? The never read the manual/readme. (Is 'cat README' that difficult to type?)

RTFM!!
 
Old 08-24-2003, 10:59 PM   #20
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If the README is too big for a single screen, then yes, it could be

Something more like:

less README

Might work a bit better

Cool
 
Old 08-24-2003, 11:01 PM   #21
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Quote:
Originally posted by MasterC
If the README is too big for a single screen, then yes, it could be

Something more like:

less README

Might work a bit better

Cool
Sorry, I'm used to working in X with it, gotta love the scrollbar.
 
Old 08-24-2003, 11:13 PM   #22
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In my X terminal I don't use a scrollbar. I use the
+sb
option to turn the scrollbar off and
-sl 400
so there will be 400 lines in the scrollback buffer
then use
shift+pageup/pagedown
to scroll through the buffer
 
Old 08-24-2003, 11:52 PM   #23
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Strange... I just ranted on my personal website regarding the moronic nature of Windows after the recent Blaster/Sobig/whatever outbreak... Windows is just too easy to break that I won't even consider running it as a NOS.

Sure there's Windows Update, but how can we know what the update does? Or even if it works at all? The more time I spent with my Linux box at home as well as administering hundreds of Windows boxes at work, the more I feel like quitting and starting up my own Linux-centric business! However, I still have a lot to learn.
 
Old 08-25-2003, 04:25 AM   #24
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I think my fav part of linux, as some of you hinted above, is the technical expertise of a larger portion of its users. I myself got INTO into computers just before the dawn of Windows 3.1. I know a ton about microsoft products & keeping them working, some dos, and now very little linux. but its nice that when I have a question someone can answer it, and I don't have to spend an hour or two going braindead reading vague and not usually helpful knowledge base documents
 
Old 08-25-2003, 08:08 PM   #25
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Well, I am open to the idea of making Linux my principle OS (and leaving Windows behind), but when I have to compile a driver some kind souls at HP wrote for my 6 month old printer, that is asking a bit too much, in my book. And the idea that being "technically advanced" is somehow virtuous is odius to me. I work in an academic environment, and am constantly the superior attitude that techs take toward non-technical people. I'd hate to see this mindset envelope a good OS like Linux (if it hasn't already).
 
Old 11-07-2003, 04:04 PM   #26
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Well,, as a somewhat newbie that is still trying to learn Linux, I will say that as soon as I learn the fine art of the download from the web and the ensueing installation of what ever it was I downloaded. I shall park Windows in the back 40 for the most part. Gots to keep it around to put on any machines I build though, would not want to push Linux on an unsuspecting buyer.
 
Old 11-07-2003, 09:01 PM   #27
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How I see it is that it is actually a mindset problem... I've been using computers since I was 11, and went through MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, 9x, 2000, XP. I discovered Linux somewhere around 1998. Hated it immediately because I expected it to be like Windows.

A few years later, I rethought my approach... and the first important step was to admit that I'm wrong. Linux has no obligation to be like Windows or some other OS I'm familiar with. It's hard after years upon years of MS brainwashing... But I'd like to think that I've broken through.

Which is why I don't believe that Linux is not ready for the masses. It's very much more complete than Windows in all areas of computing use. Out of the box with a default installation of Linux (any distro), I can write documents, convert them to PDF (ahaa!), create ISOs, burn CDs, among others. Why do I only mention these particular tasks? Because on Windows, you actually have to spend money to do all of those by buying task-specific apps that IMHO, should already be part of a usable OS.

So, in essence, what I'm saying is that its more of a mindset issue rather than a computing issue
 
  


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