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Old 11-25-2008, 04:53 PM   #1
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Linux & XP/Vista designed platforms


A few weeks ago my Linspire/Gateway CPU went down. This version of Linux ran flawlessly for 3 years on this CPU. So off I went to Micro Center to buy another XP CPU but discovered that my Linspire Live CD would not run on machines designed for Microshaft Vista - to include the new notebooks which I wanted. Couldn't even buy a machine w/o an OS so I could load my own.
Was my Linspire a suspect OS that would not run on a Vista machine or is there another distro that will run on a new box? Which Distros are compatible with new boxes and CPUs, if any?

Thanks - <> Jim
 
Old 11-25-2008, 08:05 PM   #2
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This is the million dollar question asked by zillions of people. If it concerns a laptop, look at tuxmobile.org and linuxonlaptops.com.

AFAIK all desktops older than 6 months run Linux. Check Google for compatibility.

The big manufacturers (Dell, HP/Compaq, Lenovo) do NOT manufacture computers which do not run Linux by setting some magical bits. Dunno about Pakard Bell etc (if they still exist) but that was Crap for Dummies anyway.

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Old 11-25-2008, 09:16 PM   #3
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Hi,

The BIOS on some of the newer machines are what is called 'Locked BIOS system' so if you attempt to boot something then it will not function nor pass to anything else but the machines boot device.

The native systems OS was built too function as needed within the environment. Sometimes these units with a 'Locked BIOS' are commercialized to support only this OS for the manufacture therefore buyer beware.
 
Old 11-25-2008, 10:11 PM   #4
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A few weeks ago my Linspire/Gateway CPU went down. This version of Linux ran flawlessly for 3 years on this CPU. So off I went to Micro Center to buy another XP CPU but discovered that my Linspire Live CD would not run on machines designed for Microshaft Vista - to include the new notebooks which I wanted. Couldn't even buy a machine w/o an OS so I could load my own.
Was my Linspire a suspect OS that would not run on a Vista machine or is there another distro that will run on a new box? Which Distros are compatible with new boxes and CPUs, if any?

Thanks - <> Jim
Are you trying to boot a modern machine with a ~3 year old copy of Linspire??

If so you need to download a more recent distro.
 
Old 11-26-2008, 10:46 AM   #5
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Thanks to all who posted a reply to my question.
The Linspire 6.0.17 LiveCD was only one year old and was tried on numerous notebooks and several boxes. The only box it worked on was the Power Spec PC which had XP mounted.
My Compaq M700 notebook runs just fine with this OS. The issue was with my Gateway mother board that pooped out. It is refreshing to know that notebooks and boxes 6 mo old will run various versions of Linux. Could be then my distro is not as up to date as I had hoped.
Thanks again!
 
Old 11-26-2008, 11:36 AM   #6
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I've been using linux as my principal OS for about 10 years (sorry gang, I still have some clients that use you-know-what). I recently bought my third laptop with the intention of installing linux as the principal OS. Consequently, I've learned a few things about looking for a linux laptop:

1. As suggested by a previous poster, the first stop is tuxmobile.org and linuxonlaptops.com. I do this more to find out what brands and models to avoid rather than which ones to look for.

2. I arm myself with the latest live CD versions of Ubuntu, which I use for workstations, and Gentoo, which I use for servers ... yes, I do sometimes build a laptop as a server and want to keep the option open. As a previous poster pointed out, do not try to run a 3 year old live CD on a brand new laptop, you will be disappointed.

3. When I walk into the shop, I tell them that I want to buy a laptop with NOTHING installed on the drive. Even if I'm building a windows machine I want to install and configure XP ... myself. Generally the request is met with a look of confusion and/or "but WHY would you buy such a thing?". At which point I walk out of the shop.

Some may suggest that YOU can reformat the HD and install whatever you want ... but you will still have to pay for the OEM windows that was originally installed.

4. Once you have found your virgin laptop run your live CDs. What you are looking for, assuming the OS runs) is if your distro a) found and b) can use the laptop's devices. Pay special attention to wireless, sound, touchpad and USB devices ... I also bring along my palm pilot (tungsten E), a couple of memory sticks (Kingston and Lexar), my music player (Apple IPod) and my digital camera (Canon Powershot).

I did find my new laptop: an ACER 5920-6080 (dual-core 64 bit Intel T7300). I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows XP (Ubuntu first and yes, I did pay for legal XP). Once I reassigned the "special keys", to do linux things instead of windows things, and disabled the extra (useless) "features" ... I now have a laptop that does everything that I want it to do.

The salesman waited, impatiently (he REALLY wanted to show me the "special features"), for almost an hour while I checked everything that was important to me. Once I finished, I put the computer in my bag and handed him my credit card.

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Old 11-26-2008, 11:45 AM   #7
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I've been using linux as my principal OS for about 10 years (sorry gang, I still have some clients that use you-know-what). I recently bought my third laptop with the intention of installing linux as the principal OS. Consequently, I've learned a few things about looking for a linux laptop:

1. As suggested by a previous poster, the first stop is tuxmobile.org and linuxonlaptops.com. I do this more to find out what brands and models to avoid rather than which ones to look for.

2. I arm myself with the latest live CD versions of Ubuntu, which I use for workstations, and Gentoo, which I use for servers ... yes, I do sometimes build a laptop as a server and want to keep the option open. As a previous poster pointed out, do not try to run a 3 year old live CD on a brand new laptop, you will be disappointed.

3. When I walk into the shop, I tell them that I want to buy a laptop with NOTHING installed on the drive. Even if I'm building a windows machine I want to install and configure XP ... myself. Generally the request is met with a look of confusion and/or "but WHY would you buy such a thing?". At which point I walk out of the shop.

Some may suggest that YOU can reformat the HD and install whatever you want ... but you will still have to pay for the OEM windows that was originally installed.

4. Once you have found your virgin laptop run your live CDs. What you are looking for, assuming the OS runs) is if your distro a) found and b) can use the laptop's devices. Pay special attention to wireless, sound, touchpad and USB devices ... I also bring along my palm pilot (tungsten E), a couple of memory sticks (Kingston and Lexar), my music player (Apple IPod) and my digital camera (Canon Powershot).

I did find my new laptop: an ACER 5920-6080 (dual-core 64 bit Intel T7300). I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows XP (Ubuntu first and yes, I did pay for legal XP). Once I reassigned the "special keys", to do linux things instead of windows things, and disabled the extra (useless) "features" ... I now have a laptop that does everything that I want it to do.

The salesman waited, impatiently (he REALLY wanted to show me the "special features"), for almost an hour while I checked everything that was important to me. Once I finished, I put the computer in my bag and handed him my credit card.
Offtopic but This kind of reminds me when I go looking for a new pc or laptop for friends and family. I like to go in the store and act like I have no clue about computers. It is pretty interesting what BS will come out of a salesman. But I resist the urge and keep letting him spew out his sales pitch that he has worked so hard on remembering. Then when he thinks he has sold it to me, I start with the tech questions. It is funny to see the look on their faces.
 
Old 11-26-2008, 07:27 PM   #8
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Hi,

Now that's mean!
 
  


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