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Old 01-08-2007, 11:11 AM   #1
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linux & broadband


Hi everyone.

I have a problem, I had a laptop which was running windows xp h.e, i have since changed and i am now using ubuntu - the problem i have is i cannot get bt broadband to work with linux the cd just seems to get rejected - does anyone know how to solve this problem.

Any help would be greatly appreiciated!!

Thanks
 
Old 01-08-2007, 11:19 AM   #2
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the cd just seems to get rejected
This is unclear - which CD? What do you expect the CD to do for you?

How are you expecting to connect?

Typical broadband connections are via USB xDSL modem, Ethernet Router/Modem, Cable-modem.

Typically, one plugs the thing in, then you go to system > admin > networking and activate the interface you are using.

For modems and routers with html interface (i.e. practically the lot) you open firefox and browse to the device url (given in the manual or by your ISP) and configure it there.

You do not normally need a CD (unless this is the ubuntu desktop CD?)
 
Old 01-08-2007, 11:30 AM   #3
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well you have lost me now...

i was sent a bt broadband cd by bt, which should connect me to bt broadband. I think the cd may only work with windows, i just wanted to know how to set up my laptop to work with bt broadband. i have a bt voyager 220v router. sorry about the confusion just getting used to linux
 
Old 01-08-2007, 11:41 AM   #4
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Question does anyone use bt broadband?

is there anyone out there who has been able to set up bt broadband to work with linux??
 
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:00 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by rorymanninguk
well you have lost me now...

i was sent a bt broadband cd by bt, which should connect me to bt broadband. I think the cd may only work with windows, i just wanted to know how to set up my laptop to work with bt broadband. i have a bt voyager 220v router. sorry about the confusion just getting used to linux
First, can you get to the router setup? Typically, this is done by typing 192.168.1.1 in a browser window.

Also, see if you can "ping" the router. In a terminal, just type "ping 192.168.1.1"

The connection provider (bt?) should have given you some setting for their service. These go in the router setup. Then, the typical configuration would be to set your computer and the router output (the "lan" side) for dhcp.

Let us know whatever you can about the current setup so we can help better.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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Looking on google, this may help getting access to the router.

http://www.btbroadbandvoice.com/bbv/...g_voyager.html


You must first access the configuration manager of your Voyager 220V. To access the router configuration manager open your web browser and type http://voyager220v.home into the address bar. For the Voyager 2500V you must type http://voyager.home into the address bar. Select the voice quality tab along the top menu and select High Bandwidth 106kb/s. This will configure your Broadband Talk line for FAX service. The router and its settings are pre-configured for full functionality and do not need to be adjusted for general use.



Hope this may add to pixellany's suggestion.

Also, looking at the router, does it have usb and ethernet connections, how have you got yours connected?
 
Old 01-08-2007, 01:26 PM   #8
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Thanks for that Pixellany

I have managed to get into the router setup.

Firstly let me explain what is what,

My partner uses a desktop pc running windows xp h.e she has bt broadband connected using bt voyager 220v adsl router on usb, i have a dell laptop running ubuntu which i would like to be able to share the broadband connection using ethernet. We recieved a bt broadband installation cd which has worked well with xp but will not work with ubuntu. I am not very good with understanding linux etc etc.

Would it be as simple as connecting the ethernet cable from the router to my laptop?

I would be very happy if i could get it working.

Thanks

R
 
Old 01-08-2007, 01:54 PM   #9
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rorymanninguk,

Just thought I'd chip in here, as I'm successfully using BT broadband under MEPIS.

The CD that comes with the router is for Windows PCs only. I found under MEPIS that the modem was detected automatically when connected via USB.

Using ethernet, although MEPIS wouldn't automatically connect, there is something called mutilities which can be used to start/stop Eth0 or Eth1, depending on where you are connecting to. This is a utility for MEPIS though, but Ubuntu should have something similar - check in your applications menu for a program which configures network connections.

I believe you can also use ifconfig to get things going - there are guides for this if you have a look.

To answer your question, you should be able to just connect the cable to your laptop and it may well be automatically detected - if not, it should be fairly easy to configure.

Hope this helps

Last edited by monkeynuts; 01-08-2007 at 01:56 PM.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 02:32 PM   #10
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Would it be as simple as connecting the ethernet cable from the router to my laptop?
Yes, it could really be that simple....
Once, the router, modem, etc. is set up to connect to the ISP, then that disk is no longer relevant. The isp does not have any knowledge of what you do on the "LAN" side of the router.

Assuming that your router is set up for dhcp, then all you have to do is connect the cable and make sure that your Linux is also set to dhcp. This is in the system control panel for Mepis. take some time to study the router configuration menus and also do "ipconfig -a' on the Windows machine to confirm how it is set up.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 05:13 PM   #11
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If the desktop computer is running Windows XP and you connect your computer (notebook) directly to it using ethernet, it will work, but you will need a crossover ethernet cable. Also you will have to setup internet sharing in Windows XP in order for you to access the internet. It does help to also setup DHCP in Windows XP, but this is optional. If you do not setup DHCP, you will have note down the IP address of desktop which will be the gateway address on your notebook, DNS numbers, netmask, and then pick an IP address.

It is easier to use a router because all of this will be automatic. Normally, the software that comes from broadband providers is a bunch of spyware and junk.

I do not recommend using combo units that contain the modem and a router because one part could fail and you have to replace the whole device. I recommend using separate units.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 06:45 PM   #12
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I looked at the description of your router on the web. ( Using Google. ). It indicates that it is a NAT router that supplies DHCP. If it has more than one ethernet port, you should be able to plug into the available port. If not, connecting the output of the router to a switch should allow both the XP and Linux computer to share the connection. The aDSL part can be configured from the XP computer if you don't have internet access yet. If you do, simply plugging into the router or switch and configuring your Linux laptop to use DHCP should work for you.

Most devices with both a USB and ethernet port only allow one to be used. Don't expect having the XP plugged into the ethernet port and the laptop plugged into the USB port. I doubt that would work on any broadband device.

The CD may contain a pdf file for the instruction manual as well. Unless the NAT in the router will only allow a single IP address, you probably don't need to bother with network sharing setup on the XP.

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Old 01-09-2007, 07:30 AM   #13
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Following on the recommendation of jschiwal connect both boxes to a switch or ethernet hub. Tell xp to connect using dhcp. On the Linux box go to /etc/network interfaces and open it with an editor as root and change it to look like;

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Then open a consol as root and do;

/etc/init.d/networking restart

Your /etc/resolv.conf should have the DNS servers specified by bt;

nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
 
Old 01-09-2007, 08:13 PM   #14
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Thanks for all your help guys - I have the problem sorted - I just left the usb connected to xp and then connected the ethernet from the router to my laptop then launched firefox - it works really well if if we are both online... success!!
 
Old 01-09-2007, 11:23 PM   #15
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Ahhh... well done!

You have xp set up to share the internet connection. (Sounds quite insecure but that's your business right?)
The dsl modem is a usb modem - you also have a network router(?) or do you mean this is a switch?.

S with both computers on the same lan and XP online, everything should (and does) work just fine. (If a little inelegantly...)

If the modem will connect to ethernet - plug both computers and the modem into the router... that way the laptop can access internet even when xp is offline.
 
  


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