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Old 06-16-2005, 02:46 AM   #1
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LinspireLive Monitor Hibernation Problem


I may be silly for posting this here, but after visiting the Linspire forum, I'm afraid I'm going to get some sarcastic or nasty response to my question. Hopefully there are some Linspire pros here that can give me the help that I need.

I have Linspire 5.0 that I obtained and burned to CD from an .ISO file (directly from the company's website). Instead of simply going ahead with the second step that was insinuated in my previous thread (installing Linspire on the SuSE partition), I decided to test Linspire out first for compatibility, by running the OS from the CD (utilizing LinspireLive).

It didn't work.

Now my guess is that it's a compatibility issue, but my computer originally came with SuSE installed as the OS, so I didn't think that there would be one (I now understand after some reading, how different Linspire is from SuSE though). The problem, is as follows:

I boot from the CD-ROM drive and select the option to run Linspire from the CD. It loads the splash screen, the status bar loads completely, then the screen goes blank - and my monitor switches into hibernation mode - it never returns to a normal state, even though the CD continues to work in the drive. And nothing will correct the problem, I have to manually turn off my computer (keyboard commands do not respond, etc. - attempting to eject the CD doesn't work - the CD drive does not respond to the eject).

Has anyone heard of or encountered a solution to this problem before? My video is integrated and so I am guessing that is the problem. The only other problem I can even begin to think of it being is the fact that I burned the ISO to a CD-RW (in order to not waste a CD-R), although I don't think that is the problem, as the CD would hang if it were not being read - it does not.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'd really like to install Linspire due to it's similarity to Windows, however, if I'm having compatibility issues, maybe I should just stick with SuSE since I know that it works and is completely compatible with my hardware.

Thanks in advance (again),

Jamie

P.S. My computer also does meet the requirements for Linspire and the MD-5 Checksum matched.

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Old 06-16-2005, 03:03 AM   #2
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Looks like I may have found the problem - I'm not sure but I think I have a VGA monitor (I opted not to purchase a new monitor with my last PC).

Linspire requires: SVGA or higher resolution and monitor.

How would one tell which type of monitor you have under Windows? I didn't realize it, but my monitor is nearly 10 years old now. And if my video card had SVGA capabilities, would it even matter that my monitor was VGA?

I apologize if these are things I should already know.
 
Old 06-16-2005, 03:13 AM   #3
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VGA is only 640x480, SVGA is 800x600.
If Linspire needs SVGA, then VGA just won't do!

Don't trust the resolution settings you see in Windows,
resolutions over those supported by the monitor are emulated.
Try looking at "modes this monitor supports" in the advanced tab.

It doesn't matter if your graphics card could do 65536x65536!
It's to do with the SPEED of your monitor (ie. frequency)
 
Old 06-16-2005, 03:19 AM   #4
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It's an SVGA monitor.

Thanks for the speedy reply,

Jamie
 
Old 06-17-2005, 06:47 PM   #5
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Unfortunately, I still haven't found a solution to my problem.

The monitor did the same thing (went into hibernation mode) when I first attempted to install SuSE yesterday, but I found the solution to that problem rather quickly - the screen resolution by default upon installation in 8.2 is 1280 x 1024. However, if you press F2 before installation begins, you can change the resolution (which in my case needs to be 800 x 600) - this prevented the monitor from going into hibernation mode.

I cannot find how one would make such a change in the Linspire installation, or I could possibly solve my own problem.

Any assistance given regarding the method for doing so would be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 06-17-2005, 09:19 PM   #6
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I'm not familiar with Linspire, however linux bootloaders have the ability to pass arguments to the kernel from the boot prompt.
For most distros, the default boot command is 'linux' (ie. pressing enter will show you the default with "Loading xxxxx").
Once you know the boot command, you can then try passing arguments.
I would suggest you use 'vga'.
Perhaps try vga=normal or vga=ask?
ie:
linux vga=normal

That might help. See what happens
 
Old 06-20-2005, 12:58 AM   #7
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Thank you again for the reply. Unfortunately, I know so very little about Linux that I have absolutely no idea of:

What a boot loader is.
How to access it (the boot loader).
What a kernel is.
How to get to the boot prompt.

I'll do some research on Google if the process is just too much to explain here, or if anyone might not wish to go into detail (which is understandable). I tried to obtain a bit of knowledge through search engines, but ultimately got lost. I've also contacted Linspire support, but I have a feeling that they probably won't be able to help since I can't find any information regarding my problem anywhere (including their site).

On another note, I just went ahead and reinstalled SuSE and I'm reading the manual, so hopefully Linux soon won't seem so confusing to me with a bit of time on my side. I'm looking into how to change fonts right now (there seems to be some great tutorials on how to do so on this site); hopefully I'll find a way to recreate the fonts I'm used to seeing under Windows in my Internet browser. After an hour surfing under Linux last night (Firefox), I became dizzy and extremely nauseous.

Some time is all that I need - I don't want to give up like I did before.

Thanks again,

Jamie

**Edit/Update

As I was reading my SuSE Linux manual tonight, I did find out what a boot loader and kernel is. I still do not know how to access the boot prompt in Linspire however. What I find so difficult about Linux are the commands in shell. I read up on how to install Windows fonts within SuSE, but will have to give it another go, what I followed did not work.

Hope it gets easier.

Last edited by jamiem; 06-20-2005 at 05:20 AM.
 
Old 06-20-2005, 10:14 PM   #8
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For anyone who might encounter the same problem, here is the solution:

1. In the initial load-up screen for Linspire after boot-up, select 'Diagnostics'.

2. After the computer finishes the full check up on the system, a prompt for a command will display.

3. You may check the current resolution by typing in: setxconf

4. When ready to input the new resolution, type in: setxconf -g 800 600
Note: The system will automatically match the closest available resolution to the desired one if that exact resolution does not exist (ie. 800x640 instead of 800x600).

5. Reboot your computer, the system should remember your new settings automatically. The next time you log onto your desktop, the new settings will have taken effect.


If that doesn't work, try to change the refresh rate by doing the following:

1. Turn on/restart your computer.

2. At the Linspire boot menu, select "Diagnostics" instead of "Linspire" to load the Diagnostics mode. You can ignore the scrolling messages as the Diagnostics mode loads. This may take a while, please wait patiently.

3. After the Diagnostics mode is finished loading, you'll be presented with a command prompt asking you for input. Type the command "setxconfig -r refreshrate" and press [Enter] to change your refreshrate -- where "refreshrate" is the refresh rate to which you want to change.

For example, if your monitor only supports refresh rates in the range of 50Hz to 60Hz, and the default refresh rate is set to 75Hz, you would type "setxconf -r 60" to change the refresh rate to 60Hz.

4. After entering the previous command, you should see a message confirming that the refresh rate is changed. At this point, enter the command "reboot" to restart your computer and then boot into Linspire normally (selecting "Linspire" at the boot menu).

5. When you have successfully booted into Linspire with the new refresh rate, you may want to change your display settings such as resolution and color depth.

You can do that by right-clicking on an empty area of the desktop, and then selecting "Configure Desktop". On the left, click "Display" to access this configuration.


The reboot won't work for me, nevertheless, this is the solution.
 
  


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