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jack_ 10-23-2012 03:53 PM

lilo error while insallation
 
i m trying to install slackware 14 amd64 on dell inspiron n5110 laptop, everything goes normal during installation but when i get to the part where lilo is installed i get following:

Warning : unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system.

Warning : Video adpater does not support VESA BIOS extensions needed for display of 256 colors.

Fatal: Partition entry not found. (what is meant by that if it means primary partition then i might ask where is root filesystem is being installed?)

i tried all almost all the listed framebuffer options in lilo. including standard.

segmentation_fault 10-24-2012 04:57 AM

Can you attach your lilo.conf file? Are you installing on mbr or on root partition? From the error message looks like it tries to install on root partition instead of mbr but no partition is specified. The video errors could be ignorable.

jack_ 10-24-2012 06:51 AM

lilo.conf does not get created in /etc, i m trying to install it on mbr.

also i have around 1.05m unusable space that i think is bothering lilo, output from cfdisk kinda look like this:

Code:

                    Unusable      1.05
sda1 Boot  primary  ext3          10485 << / partition
sda2      Primary  swap          10485
sda3      Primary  ntfs          52428
          logical  Free space    1.05
sda5  NC  logical  ext3          31457  << i mount /home here
...

how can i fix it without re-partitioning whole disk? its 500gb disk and there is a lot of important data on it.

jack_ 10-24-2012 07:24 AM

ok fixed partition problem. here is lilo.conf

Code:

lba32
append="vt.default_utf8=0"
boot=/dev/sda
bmp-colors = 255,0,255,0,255,0
bmp-table = 60,6,1,16
bmp-timer = 65,27,0,255
prompt
timeout = 1200
change-rules
reset
vga = normal
other - /dec/sda3
label = Windows
table = /dev/sda
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/sda1
label = Linux
read-only

but still got the same problem

jack_ 10-24-2012 08:40 AM

just installed debian everything worked fine.

i really think slackware should get rid of crappy lilo and start using grub.
i m seriously annoyed, what a piece of crap.

brianL 10-24-2012 08:54 AM

If lilo was a "piece of crap" it wouldn't be the default bootloader in Slack.

colorpurple21859 10-24-2012 09:30 AM

Grub tends to install incorrectly at times also.

jack_ 10-24-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4813829)
If lilo was a "piece of crap" it wouldn't be the default bootloader in Slack.

Well they need to re-think that.

jack_ 10-24-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colorpurple21859 (Post 4813858)
Grub tends to install incorrectly at times also.

agreed but its easy fix. i came across a lot of problems on my friends systems and i fixed them in matter of minutes. plus there is lot of helping material out there and also there are many people who can help you out unlike lilo.
if it is so great how come no one solved my problem? i'll be happy to know how to fix it if anyone can help. i love to learn but don't want to bump my head on brick wall.

segmentation_fault 10-24-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_ (Post 4813753)
ok fixed partition problem. here is lilo.conf

lba32
append="vt.default_utf8=0"
boot=/dev/sda
bmp-colors = 255,0,255,0,255,0
bmp-table = 60,6,1,16
bmp-timer = 65,27,0,255
prompt
timeout = 1200
change-rules
reset
vga = normal
other - /dec/sda3 <- is this correct?
label = Windows
table = /dev/sda
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/sda1
label = Linux
read-only

Anyway, I'm glad that slackware uses the LiLo and not the crappy Grub. I have never used a system of my own with grub, including Slack, Debian, Gentoo, Ubuntu, Backtrack...

jack_ 10-24-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

other - /dec/sda3 <- is this correct?
label = Windows
table = /dev/sda
yes, and i tried commenting out these lines, still no luck.
thanks for valuable reply.

No disrespect to lilo developers but the thing is when i was learning grub i never got stuck like this. People who uses grub not just say its outstanding, they solve the problem too.
maybe i m annoyed too much, i tried so many things and nothing seems to work.

its very definition of crappy software, no matter what you do it still sucks.

thanks again, looking forward for your reply because it seems you are the only one who is trying to help instead of just apprising lilo.

would you please also hook me up with some material so i can make myself familiar with lilo?

Fred-1.2.13 10-24-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

other - /dec/sda3 <- is this correct?
This line should be /dev/sda3

Looks like you have a typo, you typed dec instead of dev. Damn crappy Lilo not able to detect and fix your typo. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Fatal: Partition entry not found. (what is meant by that if it means primary partition then i might ask where is root filesystem is being installed?)
Well, actually it did detect YOUR error.. that's why you are getting this error message. It doesn't know WTH /dec is.

As has been said, you can ignore the warning video errors.

I have been using Slackware since version 3.0 way back in 1995, have installed it on to many machines to count, servers, desktops laptops.... I have never had an issue with Lilo. But again, I have never dual booted either.

Quote:

thanks again, looking forward for your reply because it seems you are the only one who is trying to help instead of just apprising lilo.
People might be more inclined to help if you drop the immature cocky attitude, I understand your frustrated but saying things like Lilo is crappy software and then second guessing the Slackware developers... who have been doing this probably longer than you have been alive... well that is just over the top, next you will be giving advice to Linus on how to fix all the stuff he has screwed up in the kernel!

That said, I hope you get it worked out, really Lilo is quite simple, simpler that Grub, you just need to get familiar with it and watch those typos! ;)

Oh and remember to run "/sbin/lilo -v" after editing and saving lilo.conf.

Here is a clear and simple explanation on how Lilo works:

http://www.control-escape.com/linux/lilo-cfg.html

segmentation_fault 10-25-2012 02:40 AM

Also, the lilo.conf man page is quite explanatory. Once you get familiar with it, everything will be piece of cake. Even dual, tripple, quadrupel boot. It really isn't crappy, it just demands more user intervention than grub.

One more thing. I'm not familiar with that "table" entry, but will look into that.

jack_ 10-25-2012 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred-1.2.13 (Post 4814250)
This line should be /dev/sda3

Looks like you have a typo, you typed dec instead of dev. Damn crappy Lilo not able to detect and fix your typo. :rolleyes:

well typo here not in lilo.conf. i typed it here by looking on the laptop screen. but i double checked its fine and still got the error, also i think it should have worked when i commented windows entry.
I did not manually created lilo.conf file it was generated during installation by setup procedure. i tried to fix it afterwards bit as of now i m failing miserably. ;)

my "immature cocky attitude" was after when i was trying my best to fix the problem and everyone else was jut ignoring the problem and apprising lilo. i m not "second guessing" anyone.

Anyway i was angry at that time. thanks for the help and link, i m looking into it right now.

jack_ 10-25-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by segmentation_fault (Post 4814415)
Also, the lilo.conf man page is quite explanatory. Once you get familiar with it, everything will be piece of cake. Even dual, tripple, quadrupel boot. It really isn't crappy, it just demands more user intervention than grub.

One more thing. I'm not familiar with that "table" entry, but will look into that.

Thanks, i m going to look into it.


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