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Old 03-18-2010, 03:13 AM   #1
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Lightweight word processor with decent features and few dependencies. Exist?


Using Arch Linux.

I am looking for a good word processor. I don't need a lot of file format support. Only RTF (for WordPad on W$). I want one that it is easy to use. Please do not mention OOo, Abiword or Ted. I've been searching on Google and these are the ones that constantly show up. I have tried them, and don't like them. (Abiword was OK, but I couldn't get spell-check to work...) Just something light and easy to use, with just the usual features. I don't want a billion features. All I want is something I don't have to fight against to get a nice looking, presentable document.

Emacs, Vi and *TeX* are not very easy to use, so don't mention the 'advanced' ones like that.

LOL, sorry for all those restrictions. Hopefully you Guru's can lend me an idea. Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
 
Old 03-18-2010, 03:26 AM   #2
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http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

You've got some tough criteria, but since you did not mention it, have a look at Scite, linked above. It's high-tech, easy to use, complicated, cross-platform, extensible, and really capable. Maybe more than you want, maybe not...

It works for both Win and Linux (cross-platform), but I'm not totally sure if it can be made to read RTF files when compiled on Linux. I would like to think so, but you'll have to read up on it if you're interested at all.

I can tell you that at the very least, it's easy to build. I've built it, and there was no real fuss that I recall.

Sasha
 
Old 03-18-2010, 04:18 AM   #3
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SciTE does seem to support RTF export. It really isn't aiming to be a word processor, though. I believe the output will have nice margins, but be more or less a faithful representation of what the editor shows on screen. In other words, rather than what you see is what you get, it might be more what you get is what you see.
 
Old 03-18-2010, 04:26 AM   #4
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Honestly, the kind of word processor I need is WYSIWYG-style -- kinda like the box on LQ we use to post. Ya'know like bold/italics/underline, spell check, color change, font size change, align left/right/center... Really the LQ advanced editor is a perfect example of what I am looking for.
 
Old 03-18-2010, 04:41 AM   #5
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You might want to have a look at txt2tags. It is a Python script and a simple markup language that you can use with any text editor. Some editors even have extensions that assist in entering the markup, but I can't mention them, as you already said not to mention those. But you don't have to use those particular ones to take advantage of txt2tags. txt2tags can output to several wiki formats, LaTeX (which can then be converted to PDF), http://txt2tags.sourceforge.net/. It's not WYSIWYG, but neither is LQ's advanced editor.

Maybe you should try KWord from the KDE project. It can output RTF and it's WYSIWYG. Be prepared to import a lot of libraries from KDE, though. Definitely not light-weight in that regard.

Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. You say you don't like the other WYSIWYG word processors that are available on Linux and you don't like the advanced editors that have extensions available for outputting RTF.
 
Old 03-18-2010, 04:59 AM   #6
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You might want to have a look at txt2tags. It is a Python script and a simple markup language that you can use with any text editor. Some editors even have extensions that assist in entering the markup, but I can't mention them, as you already said not to mention those. But you don't have to use those particular ones to take advantage of txt2tags. txt2tags can output to several wiki formats, LaTeX (which can then be converted to PDF), http://txt2tags.sourceforge.net/. It's not WYSIWYG, but neither is LQ's advanced editor.

Maybe you should try KWord from the KDE project. It can output RTF and it's WYSIWYG. Be prepared to import a lot of libraries from KDE, though. Definitely not light-weight in that regard.

Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. You say you don't like the other WYSIWYG word processors that are available on Linux and you don't like the advanced editors that have extensions available for outputting RTF.
RTF is not an absolute requirement, especially if I can find a word processor I can use.

It's not that I don't like OOo, it's just a freaking monster that takes forever to load up. AbiWord is OK, but I can't get the spell-check to work. Ted is ugly and unusable. (for me)

Unless there is a *really* simple front-end to emacs and Lyx, I just can't go that route. I really do prefer point-n-click in Word processors. the layout I am looking for is kinda like OOo and AbiWord, I just want one that sacrifices a few of those obscure features for memory and speed.
 
Old 03-18-2010, 05:10 AM   #7
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Then I strongly suggest you look at Kword. It is a frames-based word processor with good file format support, including RTF. It's interface can be customized to reduce clutter, if you want a simple interface. There are some screenshots and a short list of features at http://www.koffice.org/kword/.
 
Old 03-18-2010, 06:28 AM   #8
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I love Pyroom for this
although it cant do many things
as a simple word processor its great
http://pyroom.org/index.html

not offered in Arch
but you can either install it manually, just play it from folder
without install
or make a arch pkg out of it and install

I made a slackware 13 pkg for it
for myself

and it doesnt have many depends as everyones got python 2.6, so you jsut need pygtk and pyxdg
tell me if you like it
 
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:12 AM   #9
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I always liked Abiword--I'd say just find out how to get the spell-check working....

You don't mention compatibility with MSWord formats---Because of this, I use OOo almost exclusively
 
Old 03-18-2010, 08:30 AM   #10
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I always liked Abiword--I'd say just find out how to get the spell-check working....

You don't mention compatibility with MSWord formats---Because of this, I use OOo almost exclusively
I don't need MS Word compatibility... I don't work @ a place that needs M$, and there is no M$ on any my computers. So, if Linux can open it right, thats all that matters. I don't understand why spell-0check still doesn't work -- I install Abiword and abiword-plugins...

I use Word Processors to do homework, print out nicely formatted documents, do reports and make nice notes. The schools use OOo, if I ever actually have to print it there for some reason, so I can easily open up most open source formats anyway. So what I am looking for is something nice and light, that looks kinda like OOo, but isn't as huge and slow. I like the whole M$ Word look, OOo and Abiword have that same look as well -- I'm looking for things along those lines.

When I mean simple, I mean technically and usably simple; still like the GUI to have nice buttons for Bolding, formatting, etc. So, visually simple is not really a requirement. As to Kword, that is a mess of dependencies, and when I put it on, i didn't like it I feel like I'm fighting it to get it what I want it to do.

I'll checkout pyroom, but a quick glance didn't look like what I was looking for - but I'll give it a try, since I have tried so many already.

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Old 03-18-2010, 08:50 AM   #11
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How do you format the text to be bold/italics/underline/strikethrough and format the page? Obviously without buttons, its not in the GUI. Bbcode? Or should I just use HTML? (This takes away the reason to use it, though)

I mean, pyroom is really cool, but these are among the desired features...
 
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did you check out control-h for help
 
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did you check out control-h for help
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PyRoom - distraction free writing
Copyright (c) 2007 Nicolas Rougier, NoWhereMan
Copyright (c) 2008 Bruno Bord and the PyRoom team

Welcome to PyRoom and distraction-free writing.

To hide this help window, press Control-W.

PyRoom stays out of your way with formatting options and buttons,
it is largely keyboard controlled, via shortcuts. You can find a list
of available keyboard shortcuts later.

If enabled in preferences, pyroom will save your files automatically every
few minutes or when you press the keyboard shortcut.

Commands:
---------
Control-H: Show help in a new buffer
Control-I: Show buffer information
Control-P: Shows Preferences dialog
Control-N: Create a new buffer
Control-O: Open a file in a new buffer
Control-Q: Quit
Control-S: Save current buffer
Control-Shift-S: Save current buffer as
Control-W: Close buffer and exit if it was the last buffer
Control-Y: Redo last typing
Control-Z: Undo last typing
Control-Page Up: Switch to previous buffer
Control-Page Down: Switch to next buffer
No information on basic formatting tasks...
 
Old 03-18-2010, 08:54 AM   #14
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If you haven't already, I'd suggest making a good effort to get the spellcheck working. Possibly even switching distros if that's reasonable for you.

One that hasn't been mentioned: Pathetic Writer. I've never actually used it, so don't know how good it is.

Also, it pains me to mention it - can you run Wordpad in Wine?
 
Old 03-18-2010, 09:06 AM   #15
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If you haven't already, I'd suggest making a good effort to get the spellcheck working. Possibly even switching distros if that's reasonable for you.

One that hasn't been mentioned: Pathetic Writer. I've never actually used it, so don't know how good it is.

Also, it pains me to mention it - can you run Wordpad in Wine?
Wine defates the purpose of small with few dependencies and allows M$ into my PC. Not possible.

Siag office looks cool. Tracking down the dependencies from the AUR right now, and will test it here in a few.
 
  


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