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Old 05-11-2014, 12:33 AM   #1
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I need to give a brief introduction in order to make it clear what I am wanting to do. I currently have Ubuntu 14.04 and Zorin Lite installed on my new HP Pavilion desk top. I want to remove Zorin and replace it with Windows 7 Home Pro. The Window OS is on a DVD which is paid for. Because I am so new to Linux I have managed to crash and re-install Butuntu three different times. The re-install is quit easy. I just boot To the USB stick. Then I am asked, do you want to install (click) then I am asked what I want to do. (click) on re-install save previous changes, BINGO.
Now with Windows it seems that they do not want you to install on a machine that has an competing OS going. I booted to the Window cd and found that I have only one chose, install. I am not asked which partition I want or what I want to do.I need help with the following.

(1) How to remove Zorin without using Gparted
(2) How to install Windows from a cd

The reason I need to go back to Window is I am feed up with trying to make Ubuntu
do VPN pipeline. I am not willing to spend many more months learning how to do VPN in Linux. When all I have to do is install window and my pain goes away. And I can use the VPN serves I have paid for.

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Old 05-11-2014, 12:55 AM   #2
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Unless Windows has been changed for the latest version, which I doubt, including Windows in a multi-boot set-up requires installing Windows first, because the Microsoft boot-loader overwrites any loader already installed. So you would probably need to install Windows, then install the Linux system again. I suggest stopping after installing Windows.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:28 AM   #3
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including Windows in a multi-boot set-up requires installing Windows first
Not true - probably hasn't been since the initial XP release. Windoze will overlay the bootloader, but easy to fix from a Linux liveCD.

I did a Win7 install on an Archlinux system a few weeks back - totally un-memorable. I always create NTFS partition in advance, and the Windoze installer finds it ok.
To delete Zorin, use gparted - install/works from Ubuntu last I tried. Or use parted/fdisk/cfdisk ...
To Install Win7 stick the CD in and reboot. Like I said, it helps to have a NTFS partition pre-allocated - make sure it's a primary partition. It'll probably want to create another (primary) as well, so make sure you have partition entries available.
 
Old 05-11-2014, 02:47 AM   #4
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[QUOTE=syg00;5168684]Not true - probably hasn't been since the initial XP release. Windoze will overlay the bootloader, but easy to fix from a Linux liveCD.

I did a Win7 install on an Archlinux system a few weeks back - totally UN-memorable. I always create NTFS partition in advance, and the Windows installer finds it ok.
To delete Zorin, use gparted - install/works from Ubuntu last I tried. Or use parted/fdisk/cfdisk ...
To Install Win7 stick the CD in and reboot. Like I said, it helps to have a NTFS partition per-allocated - make sure it's a primary partition. It'll probably want to create another (primary) as well, so make sure you have partition entries availability.

I mean no disrespect.I only want to understand. This part of the forum is for beginners (new-bees) to learn. I have used gparted when I set up Zorin install. I have read that I can use gparted to remove Zorin. Although I have not figure out how. As most of the things on the drop down tabs, in gparted don't work. What makes you think a new person to Linux would automatically know how to make a NTFS partition? Or for that matter how to make a partition primary. It is clear to me based on the number of posts you have made that you are an expert of sorts. That being said. It sounds like you are telling me that I need four partitions. Two main and two small backups. It is important to make any explanations. To be step by step as if you were teaching a child. Which I am when it come to this OS. I have found that on this forum. When someone answers a question it goes something like this: Well go here and check ABC, then click this and then move to tab XYZ and look for this or that an so on etc... What is always left out is the small thing. Like go to the top of the page and open tools tab go to so and so click that then look for this or that, Click on that. Once that window opens.Then go to tabs at the top of the window. Then find XYZ tab open that and unchecked the box. your done, restart now. The above can also apply to Terminal work. All of you have to understand that thing you do without thinking, and take for granted and assume every one knows. It is just not so with new people. If you smart people out there take any of this to hart, you will see many more people moving from window to Linux.

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Old 05-11-2014, 05:33 AM   #5
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Not true - probably hasn't been since the initial XP release.
I'll take your word for it. I have experience dual-booting, but never with Windows.
 
Old 05-11-2014, 05:50 AM   #6
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I have read that I can use gparted to remove Zorin. Although I have not figure out how.
Removing something from a partition can be done by formatting that partition. Gparted can also create, delete and resize partitions.
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What makes you think a new person to Linux would automatically know how to make a NTFS partition?
Gparted offers a choice of formats. Simply pick one. Take a closer look at the GUI and open the menus.
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As most of the things on the drop down tabs, in gparted don't work.
The menus and controls should be working. Play around with it some more. If it still is not working properly, let us know and we can go from there.
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I mean no disrespect.I only want to understand. This part of the forum is for beginners (new-bees) to learn. ... It is important to make any explanations. To be step by step as if you were teaching a child. ... Well go here and check ABC, then click this and then move to tab XYZ and look for this or that an so on etc... What is always left out is the small thing. Like go to the top of the page and open tools tab go to so and so click that then look for this or that, Click on that. Once that window opens.Then go to tabs at the top of the window. Then find XYZ tab open that and unchecked the box. your done, restart now.
No disrespect to you either, but you need to understand the difference between help and spoon-feeding. The idea is to show a person the path and let that person explore. If more help is needed, a little more direction is given. It is not to be mean. The purpose is to teach people how to learn. Spoon-feeding may seem easier, but it actually slows the learning rate.

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Old 05-11-2014, 12:45 PM   #7
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I'm not sure I understand the problem here? If you don't want to keep Linux and just want to install Windows then why not just install windows using the install disk? When windows installs it will format the drive -- it has to in order to install the operating system.
 
Old 05-11-2014, 01:46 PM   #8
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I booted to the Window cd and found that I have only one chose, install. I am not asked which partition I want or what I want to do.I need help with the following
Since you want to install windows, wouldn't it make more sense to go to a windows forum or to the microsoft site? Microsoft actually has a page explaining how to do this. The page is very dated but the method would work. It basically explains how to do it using a "Linux" CD and fdisk. GParted does basically the same things as fdisk. Most people find using GParted easier due to its GUI.

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/247804

I have the same question posted above by 273. You want to get rid of Zorin and Ubuntu so using the windows CD to just install would work. If you had other partitions with data you wanted to save, I expect you would have indicated that.

Using GParted may look difficult if you are new to it but there are countless detailed tutorials on it as below:

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html

Or you could use the GParted Manual:

http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual

It would be pretty difficult for anyone to give you precise detailed instructions on how to perform a specific operation with GParted if we don't know how many drive/partitions you have and what is on which partition.

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Old 05-12-2014, 12:31 AM   #9
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The impression I got is that the OP wants to replace Zorin with Windows and keep Buntu.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 11:39 AM   #10
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The impression I got is that the OP wants to replace Zorin with Windows and keep Buntu
Might be the case although it isn't clear based on the OPs statement below in his initial post?

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Old 05-12-2014, 12:28 PM   #11
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If you know where the partition in which you have Zorin you might be able to install Windows in that partition. I think during installation in Windows there will be a step in which you have to select what partition you want install it in. It will be probably hided under an 'advance' selection tab. I think the default setting in Windows will be to install in the entire hard drive.

If you achieve this however you still will have to re install GRUB in Ubuntu to have the option to select different OS during booting time.

I really don't know how to add Ubuntu to the Windows boot menu, But Windows tent to take over the boot and that is why it is not recommended install Windows after Linux in a dual boot computer.

It is always suggested to install Windows firts.

Suggestion install Windows in a Virtual Box first to get familiar with the steps and then do it in the bare metal of your computer. HECK! you can even leave it in the virtual machine if you only need it to stream video.

Have fun with your project man, and good luck to you.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 12:42 PM   #12
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you have to hit the apply changes button in gparted..
 
Old 05-12-2014, 02:06 PM   #13
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If you are keeping Ubuntu:
Boot to Ubuntu
Be sude that grub was installed by Ubuntu
Open terminal
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sudo grub-install /dev/sda
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cat /etc/fstab
Take a note your ubuntu partitions sda1 sda5...etc.
Open gparted or cfdisk
Remove the other partitions that are not listed in fstab
If any of the logical partitions within the extended partition to be removed are lower than the the ones in your fstab starting at /dev/sda5 & up you will need to edit your /etc/fstab now before you reboot or you will have a broken system.

Let's say you remove sda5, 6 & 7, that would mean that sda8 will become sda5, sda9 becomes sda6 & so on.
Also keep in mind windows may want to be on a Primary partition so you may have to shrink the extended partition to make room.
Also windows will install to 2 primary partitions.

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