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Old 12-14-2001, 03:44 PM   #1
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Question Laptop, XP NTFS & Mandrake8.1


I've read a lot of message boards, and call me stupid, but can someone simply answer the following:

I've got a laptop with XP(home) installed using NTFS. I've got 17Gig HDD free (out of 30) and want to install Mandrake 8.1 (for e.g).
Now, am I able to do a simple install off a CD which will let me modify the existing single partition so Linux can have 13 Gig and let windows have the rest?

As XP was preinstalled, there's no CD to re-install because it's not allowed, I have an image though if all fails and I really must use windows by itself.

Thanks in advance for a clear answer
 
Old 12-15-2001, 04:10 AM   #2
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make it into two partitions one for windows and one for linux.

you can use partition magic or something like it.

when you install linux to the free partition you can partition it within the installation how ever you choose, I would add a /boot linux native type 83 partition somewhere around 16 MB or so.

/swap type 82 depends on your ram, if you have 128 or more use 128MB for /swap


give the rest to / type 83
 
Old 12-15-2001, 04:57 AM   #3
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You mentioned partitioning the hard drive, 1 part for linux, 1 part for winders using partition magic or something, am I able to do this partitioning from within the linux setup, or does it have to be done before the setup starts?

Ta
 
Old 12-15-2001, 05:51 AM   #4
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Partition first, install after

The best way to accomplish your task, is to do what I did.

1. Get a copy of Partition Magic 7 (previous versions cannot work with the new version of NTFS that comes with XP).

2. Reduce the size of the one partition on your system to make room for all the new partitions.

3. Create an extended partition in the empty space (all your new partitions will be logical partitions inside of this partition)

4. Create a FAT32 partition to use for sharing files between the OSs. This is very useful. Linux is able to mount your NTFS (XP) partition read-only, so you can read and copy files from this partition, but a FAT32 partition can be easily used by both OSs.

5. Create some linux partitions. This can be done during your Mandrake installation process if you like, though I would recommend doing this ahead of time. If you choose to do this during the installation, you can have Mandrake automatically determine a simple partioning solution for you. I like to create one partition for swap (~128 MB or so), one for /, and one for /home. I usually don't do this, but it's not a bad idea to create a small /boot partition as well. (The /home partition is a must, because you can save all your work here and the next time you install linux -- new version, upgrade -- just format every linux partition but this one.

6. Install Mandrake 8.1!

7. Mandrake will hook you up with a nice boot manager (graphical lilo) so you can choose your OS at bootup. (btw, it will label your XP installation as NT.)


I hope you're as happy with your dual boot system as I am with my multiboot configuration (I have a Mandrake/Win98/WinXP system and a Mandrake/Win2k/WinXP system. Both use the graphical lilo boot loader and run without a hitch!).

Have fun.
:-)
Nathan Chilton
 
Old 12-15-2001, 06:14 AM   #5
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Can you recommend what size I should make /boot, and /?
I've got 12 Gig (round abouts) to use for linux and I'll probably do something like this:
/swap : 128mb
/home : 8000mb
/usr : 4000mb
/boot : ?
/ : ??

Thanks again : )

btw...
I'm downloading trial partition magic 7 now.
I haven't used it before, only fdisk and I dont' want to use that !
 
Old 12-15-2001, 07:58 AM   #6
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/boot 16MB

the touchy thing here is /home and /usr

be mindful that most programs install to /usr or /usr/local

it looks to me like you will run out of space on /usr before anything unless you have a good reason for such a big /home partition like multi users.

everything is under /

if it is not it's own partition it will go in /
 
Old 12-15-2001, 08:29 AM   #7
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I see, so what goes in /home?

Would you suggest something like
/home = 2 Gig
/user = 10 Gig

Thanks
 
Old 12-15-2001, 09:57 AM   #8
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how many users?


keep in mind that all your config stuff for each program your user runs goes in /home

other stuff like documents can go anywhere, you can just make any folder and make it owned by the user for space.

4G may be a good number to go with, but I would not have /usr as a partition

only /swap /home /boot and /
 
Old 12-15-2001, 12:49 PM   #9
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Only myself using.
You've said you wouldn't have a /usr partition, but in the previous email said that most programs install there?
I'm assuming you can install anywhere you like though?
Remember, I'm used to windows installing where it likes, and I have to change it as necessary....
 
Old 12-16-2001, 01:37 AM   #10
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/usr is under /

Most programs DO install under /usr, however this doesn't mean that you should create a seperate partition mounted at /usr.

Like David said:
>> everything is under /
>>
>> if it is not it's own partition it will go in /

/usr is simply a directory named usr at the root of your file system. There is no need for you to make a seperate partition for this directory.

 
  


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