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Old 04-12-2007, 11:09 AM   #1
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Kubuntu 7.04 LiveCD eval How to?


Hi All
I've burnt and run the liveCd once with out issue.
  • Now I would like to explore beyond this.
  • Is it possible to install say firefox with liveCD?
    OR
  • Do I need to install Kubuntu.
    From the liveCD:
  • Can I create a linux partition from currently spare disk space (not partitioned as yet)?
  • Assuming I can install FF form the liveCD:
  • What steps need I take to accomplish this?
    OR
  • A link to a tutorial for this task?

Thanks!

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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 PM   #2
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I don't know if it's possible to install Firefox while using a live CD.
Even if it's possible, it's probably going to be "installed" in the RAM, which means you'll have to reinstall it everytime you reboot with your live-CD.

But isn't there a web browser by default on the live-CD?

However, altough I have never used the Kubuntu live-CD, I am quite sure that you can partition your hard disk with it.
Just look for a program called "gparted" or "qtparted" (both with GUI)(since it's Kubuntu, it should be QTparted).
If they aren't there, try "parted" (command-line interface).
By the way, I think the installation procedure of Kubuntu offers to partition automatically.
(choose "Manually edit partition table")

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Old 04-13-2007, 01:01 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply.

I was afraid liveCD would prove to be mostly a demo till an install attempt.

Now I get to burn several XP backups and re-part my drives & set up a dual boot for start-up.

Then run that way till I'm familiar with linux. Then I want to dump the XP boot partition and install XP as a virtual OS.

I have plenty of ram & disk space so no need to rush other than my XP is, in need of a refresh.

If anyone knows of a step by step to accomplish this or a better plan, please lay it on me. I'm all eyes & ears.
Thanks.
 
Old 04-13-2007, 04:54 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [KIA]aze
I don't know if it's possible to install Firefox while using a live CD.
Even if it's possible, it's probably going to be "installed" in the RAM, which means you'll have to reinstall it everytime you reboot with your live-CD.

But isn't there a web browser by default on the live-CD?
Thats pretty much exactly how it is, I've "installed" several programs on Ubuntu live CDs because I wasn't sure if they'd work on a new install.

I think Konq is the default browser on Kubuntu(and KDE in general). I Love Ubuntu, but hate KDE, so I refuse to use Kubuntu, but I thought Firefox was pre-installed with Kubuntu.

IGF
 
Old 04-13-2007, 12:10 PM   #5
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...but I thought Firefox was pre-installed with Kubuntu.

IGF
It is not listed on the liveCD but quite possibly it could get installed on installing the liveCD to the system. (I've not done that as yet.)
Quote:
...I Love Ubuntu, but hate KDE...
Would you please expand on your thoughts on this? PM me if that seems more appropriate.
Thanks for your reply.
 
Old 04-13-2007, 12:17 PM   #6
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Firefox will be installed when you install Kubuntu. When you boot the live cd, you should see the firefox logo on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. Are you wanting to just install firefox? Or, the entire operating system?

It is very easy to install Kubuntu. The instructions on the installer are easy to follow and it is easy to research at the Ubuntu or Kubuntu site.

To get a feel for the difference in KDE and Gnome you may want to try an Ubuntu disk also (it uses the Gnome desktop). Different flavors for different folks. Some like KDE some like Gnome. Also, you can download and try the other desktop variations via synaptic if/when you install ubuntu/kubuntu.
 
Old 04-13-2007, 03:45 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClockDr
It is not listed on the liveCD but quite possibly it could get installed on installing the liveCD to the system. (I've not done that as yet.)
Would you please expand on your thoughts on this? PM me if that seems more appropriate.
Thanks for your reply.
No, usually its on the Live CD. Typically when you install U/K/Xubuntu, everything on the Live CD gets installd, everything else, is installed by the user after the OS is installed. I've yet to see a Linux Distro that didn't have Firefox installed. I have no idea why its not there, but I've not messed with Kubuntu 7.04. Now I did have a copy of Kubuntu 6.10, and I'm nearly 100% sure Firefox was on the live distro.

I just hate KDE, as the above poster stated, its just preference. It works just as well as Gnome/Xfce. I just think KDE looks like something where ideas for graphics, etc, were gathered from a bunch of 4th graders. Way to cartoonish for me.

If you like KDE, more power to you, there's nothing wrong with it at all.

IGF
 
Old 04-14-2007, 08:45 AM   #8
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I've yet to see a Linux Distro that didn't have Firefox installed.
GNU/Linux Debian Etch
It comes with IceWeasel.
 
Old 04-14-2007, 12:27 PM   #9
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I just discovered this and thought I share it with you since you asked about how to install programs with a live-CD:
HOWTO: Persistent home on USB key

If this allows a persistent home, this means that if you install programs in the home directory, they'll be usable from the Live-CD even after a reboot.

To install to /home, simply install from source (tar.gz files) by using:
Code:
./configure --prefix=/home/<login>
make
make install
I haven't tried it myself, so I don't know how easy it will be.
(In fact, I am almost sure that you'll have to install a lot of dependencies for Firefox, especially the whole gnome environment...)
However, it should theoretically be possible.

More info about installing from source:
http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
My experiences trying to install to my home directory, without root permissions:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=535973

But seriously, you'll waste less time by simply installing Linux to your hard-drive directly.
You can give it only like 5 GB in a first time.

Last edited by [KIA]aze; 04-14-2007 at 12:28 PM.
 
Old 04-14-2007, 12:44 PM   #10
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kubunutu installed

Hi all

I took the plunge!

v 7.04 installed, now setting it up.

Thanks for the replies.
 
Old 04-14-2007, 02:55 PM   #11
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Kubuntu doesn't come with firefox it comes with Konquerer
 
Old 04-14-2007, 06:07 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClockDr
Hi all

I took the plunge!

v 7.04 installed, now setting it up.

Thanks for the replies.
Just use caution, 7.04 is still in beta for the next couple of weeks, so you'll likely be doing a LOT of updating(especially right after install, unless the image youu downloaded is very current). I've had Xubuntu 7.04 on my laptop for about 2 weeks and it seems to be working fine, but I've had to do a truckload of updates to bring it current.

If you need some help, you can usually use Google or search here at LQ, but here's some other sources for help(at least they have been for me)

http://www.ubuntuforums.com

If you still can't find the answer to your question, you should have some IRC client installed, if not, use your package manager to install X-chat...

Open X-chat, start the "FreeNode" server, and join channels #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1(this is the currenst feisty support channel, until its final release)

I don't post a whole lot of questions, often I just sit in there and read as questions are addressed and solved by more experienced users. You'd be amazed how much I've learned just doing that.

Good luck..

IGF

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