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Old 04-21-2012, 10:17 PM   #1
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kubuntu 11.10


I've downloaded Kubuntu 11.10 and tried it out. My question is; how is this different than ubuntu 11.10? I mean other than the obvious desktop. It's a very vauge question I know it's just that I don't know anything about it. Is it still using unity or is kbuntu using something different now?
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:30 PM   #2
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As far as I know, the difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc, is the D.E. Am not a KDE user, but I don't think KDE uses Unity. Unity is a GNOME thing.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 10:48 PM   #3
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Ubuntu uses Unity as the main graphical interface (technically known as Desktop Manager) Kubuntu uses KDE as the graphical interface.
Each desktop manager comes pack with lot other application such as File manager, window manager, text editor, terminal manager etc.
So you try different desktop managers and choose the one you like the most.
Do a google search about Desktop Managers and read along and look screen shots.

Good luck to you!
 
Old 04-22-2012, 03:34 AM   #4
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Ubuntu uses Unity which is a shell that works ontop of gnome3. Gnome shell is different again and is the shell which was intended to be run ontop of gnome3, but it doesn't come default with Ubuntu. Gnome3 with out a shell is just a black screen. Kde is a complete different desktop environment but it also uses a shell, it's called plasma-desktop; and once again you can have kde without plasma-desktop but it will just be a black screen. This may be confusing, but as Tron pointed out, the desktop environment is made up of many things, and these shells are just one part.
Xfce another desktop environment uses the traditional method, and doesn't have a shell. Xfce's different 'parts' are all seperate. I'll give an example to help define that better. kde's shell, plasma-desktop consist of things such as, the way the background is handled when you click it ect; the panels; the menus and icons, ect. this is all one great big application called plasma-desktop; the kde shell (although not often described as a shell). Xfce's background, and panels ect are all seperate though. xfdesktop controls the background and icons, xfce4-panel controls the panels. Ok so hopefully i didn't confuse you and have explained that clearly. I don't use xfce, but do like there design desision better than kdes and gnomes as it allows for more flexibility.
Now specifically to your question.
Most distros take the sensible option and only give them selves one name, and when you visit there websight to download there iso, they will often list about four isos, each clearly labeled which desktop environment on each one. Nothing different on each iso except for the desktop environemnt.
Ubuntu does not take the above aproach and instead gives each iso a differnet but similar name, but besides that, it's no different.
Ubuntu uses Unity as its desktop environment, which is a customized gnome3. Kubuntu uses kde4. In the past, Ubuntus kde was not very well implimented. It was very buggy and didn't seem to get the attention other distributions gave to kde. it's picked up on that slack since then though, and offer nice upgrades to kde if you so desire; but it's still Ubuntu underneith. If you like Ubuntu, and also kde, then why not give kubuntu a go. If you already have Ubuntu installed, you can install kde with the following command, if my memery serves me right.
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sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
This will not overwrite Unity, when you login you have the option of which one to use.

Hope that helps
 
Old 04-22-2012, 10:53 AM   #5
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Thank you all for the great info. I will take this further into expanding my knowledge by researching more into the different desktop distro's. Are there any really good books that are out there to teach a newbie with out a lot of tech. jargin?
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:44 PM   #6
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the problem with books on linux is they're trying to cover a moving target. I can't recommend any books. have you considered podcast. I love podcast and there is heaps on Linux. 'going Linux' isn't bad but I hear things a fare bit that are wrong, so don't forget that everyone gets some things wrong. I still think the best one is 'Linux reality' it is fairly old, I think 6 years; so you've got to remember this because some things have changed since. he talks a little about kde and gnome in some episodes, but there current states are radically different to the versions he's referring to. xfce also has icons on the desktop now. its not hard to pick the things that are out dated, and other than that most of the info still holds up and chess Griffin, the host explains things well.
the biggest problem I have with current podcasts is that the people making them seem to usually be mint/Ubuntu users. this shouldn't be an issue, but I've observed an attitude that seems to be common in mint/Ubuntu users and they seem to be unwilling to explore and thus don't learn some things and then get things wrong.
 
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Knightron
Thank you.
One question may help me out very much. If I were to learn a comp. language what is the best one to learn?
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:46 PM   #8
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I'm not one to speak about things that I don't know about. I'm not a developer or programmer, so someone else will have to deal with that question.
 
  


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