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Old 08-12-2009, 05:47 AM   #1
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Knoppix store on flash disk not working


I am using Knoppix 6 Adriane and have tried to use the Store on Flash Disk but it does not work. It copies OK to the USB and although I have moved what I think is the USB to the top of the boot order. What I think is the USB is movable devise followed by CD then HD etc. Unless I have read wrong I should now be able to boot from the USB and save changes in it which is the main reason using the Store to Flash Disk. The computer is a new ASUS laptop X58Cseries wide screen.
Any information please.
 
Old 08-12-2009, 10:01 AM   #2
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Even I have bought a new PC with ASUS motherboard. The BIOS has the option of booting with 1) Removable media 2) CD-RW 3) HDD 4) LAN.
I have made a Slax bootable pendrive, which doesn't work on with the options in the above order or any other way.

I tried the same Pendrive on PC with the explicit option of booting from USB-HDD and it works fine.

Can you try it on other computer? Or does your laptop has the explicit option of booting from USB-drive?
 
Old 08-12-2009, 10:08 AM   #3
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You can use Plop bootmanager to boot the usb also
it's very small so not worth burning a whole cd for it
you can download my cd here, which includes Plop bootmanager
It's my remaster of BrowserLinux0908(puppy)
I call it RescuePuppy, it also has plop bootmanager testdisk, dd rescue and more
http://multidistro.com/downloads/pup...Pup-Beta-1.iso

you can also put plop on floppy if you have floppy
use plpbt.img, not plpbtin.img(installs to mbr)
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
 
Old 08-12-2009, 10:12 AM   #4
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have tried to use the Store on Flash Disk
Doesn't this mean you store the settings on flash drive?
I don't think it installed knoppix on the flash drive
 
Old 08-13-2009, 02:16 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies I have never had many for knoppix, I will try the download and maybe the store flash disk is only to store but I don't mind as I just wish to save changes.
 
Old 08-13-2009, 05:54 AM   #6
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Based on your input it is not clear what you really did: installing the Knoppix system to the device, or only storing your session data for later use to regain work after reboots? If you haven't really installed Knoppix, then it will obviously not boot.

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:06 AM   #7
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Jerome I am not sure what I have done, I just followed the instructions for store on flash disk and that
is what I have but I don't even know how to save my last session but if I could this would do. Linus I have downloaded the Pup-Beta ISO to Knoppix 6 but do not know what application to use to open it.
I would appreciate any further information.
 
Old 08-13-2009, 07:26 AM   #8
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Linus I have downloaded the Pup-Beta ISO to Knoppix 6 but do not know what application to use to open it.
OK, basically, open a root terminal in knoppix
enter these

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mkdir newcd
mkdir mount

mount -o loop RescuePup-Beta-1.iso mount

cp -a mount/* newcd

umount mount
that will mount and copy iso contents to folder newcd.
drag n drop or copy/paste the contents of newcd folder to usb and boot

Note, if you have 2 usb ports, one usb can boot the other with plop

if you only have 1 usb port, burn rescuepup iso to cd-r with k3b at slowest speed.

tell me if any issues
 
Old 08-14-2009, 03:24 AM   #9
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Still not working as I have dragged newcd and mount into the USB. Nothing seems to be in newcd. Sorry but I don't understand (Note, if you have 2 usb ports, one usb can boot the other with plop) I have multiple USB ports on the laptop. I am not using the password option if it makes any difference.
 
Old 08-14-2009, 07:19 AM   #10
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OK
your not understanding...

Your using Knoppix right?

The console commands above are to mount the iso and then copy the Contents of the iso to a folder, any folder you want.

so, you don't drag n drop any folder into usb, just the Contents of that folder.

when you issue the command

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mount -o loop mount -o loop RescuePup-Beta-1.iso mount
that will mount the puppy iso on the folder, named mount
after giving that command, go look in the mount folder you made
yyou should see the Contents of the iso.

Then, issues the copy command to copy the contents of mount to the folder newcd

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cp -a mount/* newcd
that above means copy (cp) all (-a) contents of mount to newcd.

Once you do that you should see the contents of iso in newcd folder
Now, you need to move the Contents of folder newcd to usb

if you use the copy command above, you will probably overwrite any folder named "boot" on your usb, thats why I said drag n dropp to usb

first, if you have a boot folder on usb, in there is a syslinux folder?
if so, just add the entries from puppy syslinux.cfg to knoppix syslinux.cfg

basically, your just gonna add folders/files from the iso to your usb, just don't overwrite anything there

tip, if yu open 2 instances of Rox filemanager, the drag n drop works better, just drag wgatever from one window to the other rox window
and when you let go the left mouse button, it
will ask whether you want to copy or move it there.
 
Old 08-14-2009, 11:13 AM   #11
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Not working yet but I have followed more closely your instructions, this is what I now have on the Kingston USB and I am still working on it.
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/vmlinuz
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/pup_412R-beta.sfs
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/plpbt
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/isolinux.cfg
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/isolinux.bin
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/initrd.gz
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/boot.msg
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/chntpw
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/boot
/media/KINGSTON/newcd/[BOOT]
#
 
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OK
good,
BUT
you gotta get rid of the folder newcd

Remember, you gotta put the CONTENTS of newcd on usb
it should be

/media/KINGSTON/vmlinuz
/media/KINGSTON/pup_412R-beta.sfs
/media/KINGSTON/plpbt
/media/KINGSTON/isolinux.cfg
/media/KINGSTON/isolinux.bin
/media/KINGSTON/initrd.gz
/media/KINGSTON/boot.msg
/media/KINGSTON/chntpw
/media/KINGSTON/boot
/media/KINGSTON/[BOOT]

also, where's knoppix?
also, where is the executable named ldlinux.sys thats a small L
ldlinux.sys is syslinux
where is syslinux.cfg?
 
Old 08-14-2009, 12:35 PM   #13
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This is the whole thing on the Kingstone USB

I still don't get this (Remember, you gotta put the CONTENTS of newcd on usb) Do I copy all this onto another USB as what you can see is already on the Kingston? I don't see a small L.

/media/KINGSTON/syslinux.cfg
/media/KINGSTON/minirt.gz
/media/KINGSTON/memtest
/media/KINGSTON/memdisk
/media/KINGSTON/logo.16
/media/KINGSTON/linux
/media/KINGSTON/ldlinux.sys
/media/KINGSTON/knoppix.odt
/media/KINGSTON/german.kbd
/media/KINGSTON/f3
/media/KINGSTON/f2
/media/KINGSTON/boot.msg
/media/KINGSTON/balder.img
/media/KINGSTON/newcd
/media/KINGSTON/My Documents
/media/KINGSTON/KNOPPIX
/media/KINGSTON/Desktop
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:42 PM   #14
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OK
all the stuff in folder newcd MUST moved to where ldlinux.sys is

like so

/media/KINGSTON/syslinux.cfg
/media/KINGSTON/minirt.gz
/media/KINGSTON/memtest
/media/KINGSTON/memdisk
/media/KINGSTON/logo.16
/media/KINGSTON/linux
/media/KINGSTON/ldlinux.sys
/media/KINGSTON/knoppix.odt
/media/KINGSTON/german.kbd
/media/KINGSTON/f3
/media/KINGSTON/f2
/media/KINGSTON/boot.msg
/media/KINGSTON/balder.img
/media/KINGSTON/My Documents
/media/KINGSTON/KNOPPIX
/media/KINGSTON/Desktop
/media/KINGSTON/vmlinuz
/media/KINGSTON/pup_412R-beta.sfs
/media/KINGSTON/plpbt
/media/KINGSTON/isolinux.cfg
/media/KINGSTON/isolinux.bin
/media/KINGSTON/initrd.gz
/media/KINGSTON/boot.msg
/media/KINGSTON/chntpw
/media/KINGSTON/boot
/media/KINGSTON/[BOOT]

and then delete the empty newcd folder
you gotta move everything in newcd outside that folder, not inside newcd

also, delete the isolinux.cfg in newcd folder too

also, now, you must edit your syslinux.cfg in usb
open syslinux.cfg with editor(any) and add the puppy syslinux.cfg entries to your syslinux.cfg
then save it and delete the syslinux.cfg in /boot/syslinux/

post your syslinux.cfg for knoppix here
use copy/paste

and don't overwrite your knoppix boot.msg with puppies
just rename puppy boot.msg to pup.msg or whatever

Last edited by linus72; 08-14-2009 at 12:43 PM.
 
Old 08-15-2009, 03:43 AM   #15
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I know open syslinux.cfg can be done with Leafpad but where can I find the Puppy syslinux.cfg entries as I don't see it and what would it open with. When I have extracted the files from newcd do I put them in another folder or not.Thanks

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