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Old 02-11-2007, 07:25 AM   #1
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KNOPPIX or PCLinuxOS?


Hi. I am a complete linux newb, but I have been researching it for about 3 months.
I have narrowed down my choices to KNOPPIX 5.1.1 or PCLinuxOS 2007 beta 1.

My test computer is a Dell Inspiron Desktop with a Pentium 3 1.8ghz processor, 512mb or system RAM, and a Nvidia card with 64mb of RAM.

I have quite a bit of OSX knowledge (which is Unix based) and a good amount of Windows XP and 2000 knowledge.

Which one do you guys think is for me?
 
Old 02-11-2007, 07:39 AM   #2
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Try both. That's the nice thing about free software. You can afford to get several different distributions and try them all.

I would try the Knoppix first and wait for PCLinuxOS 2007 to be released. Don't use the beta. There is a reason that they delayed making the beta into the release version. Apparently there are some problems that need to be worked out.
 
Old 02-11-2007, 07:46 AM   #3
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I have no idea how you could narrow it down to those two, so I don't really know what to tell you. Why don't you try one of the distros most people use, such as Fedora, Debian, SuSE, Madriva, Red Hat, or some distro that has a committed community behind it. SuSE is slowly falling off that list. I'm here to tell you, you cannot read about linux and then go do it. You have to just do it. OSX and Windows do not apply to linux at all. Linux is linux, and if you want to know linux you have to use a distro that is linuxy. I don't recommend either distro you have narrowed it down to, although Knoppix is pretty linuxy linux. I would pray you try, for free, Debian or Fedora (Fedora is easy, but Debian is easy, powerful, and flexible.) Debian puts everything in the right places so when you install a program, and type its name to run it it is in the path. Also, Debian puts the kernel sources where they are supposed to go, in /usr/src/linux. So, if you need to build kernel modules with some program it can find the kernel sources. Debian even has a program called alien to convert packages from other distros to debian packages.
 
Old 02-11-2007, 09:13 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlahBlah_X
Hi. I am a complete linux newb, but I have been researching it for about 3 months.
That's about 2.8 months too long---especially since you narrowed it down to 2 that most of us would not recommend...

On the Knoppix live CD, they actually advise you NOT to install Knoppix, but to get Debian instead.

PCLinuxOS is fine but---as already stated--not a Beta version.

Pick anything in the top 5-10 on the Distrowatch "hit list" and go for it.

The best Distro (for you) is the last one you try.
 
Old 02-11-2007, 09:40 AM   #5
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Rank Distribution
1 Ubuntu
2 openSUSE
3 Fedora
4 MEPIS
5 PCLinuxOS
6 Mandriva
7 Debian
8 Damn Small
9 Slackware
10 Sabayon
http://distrowatch.com/

Knoppix isn't really meant to be installed. PCLinuxOS is great but the beta has issues wait til the final release. If you like KDE try Kubuntu.
 
Old 02-12-2007, 10:44 AM   #6
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... or some distro that has a committed community behind it. {snip}
PCLinuxOS has a very dedicated user community and a very responsive forum. I'm one of them

To answer your original question, both are good and you should try them both. I'm less familiar with Knoppix' reputation as a full-install distro. As a live distro, it includes a lot of stuff that other's leave out, e.g., TeX which you should definitely explore. On the minus side, Knoppix takes a while to boot and I had to fiddle with the hotplugging/hardware options. However, with any live distro that can happen, so that should not deter you from KNoppix.

However, I was so impressed with PCLinuxOS' performance on my hardware that I installed it and it is now my OS at home. It has a reputation as "the distro-hopper stopper." I chose it over those more popular ones (Ubuntu) because it just worked. If you want to install from source, it works really well for that too, whereas other distros gave me lots of errors and required much tweaking. It's a good starter distro from all angles.

Another thing I liked about PCLinuxOS was that if you wanted to customize, you can, however it's not required. This makes it a great way to learn the Linux way.

Joel
 
Old 02-14-2007, 05:41 AM   #7
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Yes, this PCLinuxOS really seems to be the
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the distro-hopper stopper
as trashbird has mentioned. I'm currently using the 2007 test 1, which runs quit stable on my machine.

Although I'm using Knoppix for a couple of releases for doing some work on the partition table and other service stuff, I've never thought of using this as my main distribution. I really don't think this Linux is meant to be installed, it's more like the communities tool to convince frustrated winusers.

However, after a while of using knoppix in my freetime I was convinced... and sad of the never ending boot process as well (And playing F-Bubble in Vesa and no sound because the flash-drive with my profile is missing sux as well)

During the last months I tried the following distributions

-Kubuntu 6.06 LTS
-Mepis 6(.04)
-Freespire 2 Beta (can't remember the buildno. but I can tell you: this is not comparable to a PCLOS test release)
And finally the PCLOS 2007tr1.

This one seems to fit best to my needs, and yes: I do like the K-Desktop.

Hope this comment was helpful to you, if you have further questions - just ask

vi se's

Edit: Just read a post from "davecs" on pclinuxos.com that the test2 is just about to hit the mirrors... yeah give it to me

Last edited by Amilo1437G; 02-14-2007 at 05:44 AM.
 
Old 02-14-2007, 06:25 PM   #8
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PCLinuxOS .92
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/dist...glish/preview/
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distr...glish/preview/

This is the distro I use and recommend, Why because it works right out of the box. No need to configure Everything, everything just works. It also comes as a 1 CD install that is a live CD that you can install later if you wish.

Knoppix is not good for a Newb too difficult to install etc.

Mepis would be a good one also

but try PCLinuxOS, may I suggest you wait untill .94 comes out .92 is outdated and .93 is fine but .94 will be great, I've seen screenshots read reveiws etc and with a new release so close it will save you having to upgrade in a few months when the new one comes out

Jake
 
Old 02-15-2007, 09:53 AM   #9
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As I mentioned, the other wonderful thing about PCLinuxOS is the user community: no arrogant responses to questions, no RTFM, no "Switch to Ubuntu" (obviously).

In fact, the archives of the forum are the best source of documentation, since there is no official documentation (one downside). I agree with the above, KNoppix seems to be meant only for use as a LiveCD. If anyone uses it as a full install, please write in.

JOel
 
Old 02-16-2007, 04:24 AM   #10
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Smile KNOPPIX or PCLinuxOS

I,m also new to linux. Since reading about Vista Woes, XP pro will be my last Windoze OS. I started searching for Linux on the web and downloaded a few distros. After much trouble with some I decided to give PCLinux TR1 a go. I was impressed everything worked. Now I,m Using TR2. It,s radically simple
 
  


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