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Old 05-28-2006, 05:57 PM   #1
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Knoppix, changing from one distro to another


Is this possible? How easy is it to change distros once I take the plunge?

Also, do I need to Format my hard drive with Windows and just do a clean install? (Not really enough space on my hard drive to mess with partitions.)

The Live Knoppix recognized the Comcast modem and everything worked alright, though there were issues with display functions not performing properly. This is probably just due to flawed mechanics in the Live Version, correct? I have at least 256 Megs of Ram, so that should be enough to accomodate simple things such as display functions. On one website that I visited, only small portions of the screen were showing up. On several occasions, parts of the screen would get whited out and start partially reappearing as I moved the mouse over them.

If I do format the hard drive and start the Knoppix CD with a fresh complete install, will it pick up the Comcast cable modem as easily as it has in the Live Version, enabling support?

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Old 05-28-2006, 07:53 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by agentchange
Is this possible? How easy is it to change distros once I take the plunge?

Also, do I need to Format my hard drive with Windows and just do a clean install? (Not really enough space on my hard drive to mess with partitions.)

The Live Knoppix recognized the Comcast modem and everything worked alright, though there were issues with display functions not performing properly. This is probably just due to flawed mechanics in the Live Version, correct? I have at least 256 Megs of Ram, so that should be enough to accomodate simple things such as display functions. On one website that I visited, only small portions of the screen were showing up. On several occasions, parts of the screen would get whited out and start partially reappearing as I moved the mouse over them.

If I do format the hard drive and start the Knoppix CD with a fresh complete install, will it pick up the Comcast cable modem as easily as it has in the Live Version, enabling support?
Hum ?

Lots of questions and not many answers.

If you have a windows CD then all you have to loose is time.

You could try different Live CD versions i.e. Kanotix is based on Knoppix, but rather than using knoppix repositories/mirrors for packages, it uses debian ones.

It's more aimed at hard drive install than knoppix is.

You can either download Ubuntu, or google for it and then follow the "shipit" link. If you're not in a hurry then thats a good way to go, as Ubuntu has good hardware detection/recognition.

"Proper" distros ? Everyone has their favourites. For the new user, then maybe Mandriva or SuSE or Fedora. If you just want to use, rather that learn something about the guts of the OS, then maybe Linspire (but I understand that you may have to pay some to get the best from it).


As for the modem thing you mention, well what kind is it ? USB or Ethernet ? If it's ethernet, then there should be little or no problem with it working under linux. If it's USB, then that can be quite a different matter (some USB devices are complete SOB's to get working, if at all). The ethernet models are usually fine, because it's not the actual modem you're having to configure, it's the link out from the OS (i.e. I just put in the IP's for eth 0 that I allocate according to what I have my router/modem set at - I use the ISP IP addresses for DNS and bingo, it's up and running - I believe that if your cable provider uses DHCP i.e. dynamic/changing IP's then it should - alledgedly - work fine. My aunts did when I was showing her Kanotix).

As for the graphics things that you mentioned, what would the amount of RAM have to do with how websites display ???? Thats down to the graphics card/chip(if onboard). Inadequate RAM, would mean that the desktop functions would run slowly (as I understand it). As for the "whiting out" thing, thats probably more down to a poorly produced/coded website than it is your graphics card/device (unless it's a mega rubbish one).

Plus, why might you not have room to run a dual boot ? Have you got loads of stuff ? or a mega small hard drive ? (I ran a dual boot on this system when it only had a 40 gig hdd). It's handy to start with, because you have something to fall back on if you experience problems i.e. you just boot back into windows and bring up a browser and hunt for answers/ask.

Theres lots of advice/info about dual booting and/or repartitioning hard drives about. I understant that Mandriva will partition up a hard drive during install - or you could get a partitioning app (download the ranish partition manager for free!) and use that first. You'd only need to make some unallocated space and then tell the installer to put it there. As long as you make sure that you put the bootloader on the first section of the MBR (major boot record) of the first hard drive (if you had more than one - yes that does mean that it will overwrite the windows bootloader - but thats what you'd want it to do so that it can see all installed OS's and offer the choice).

So as you can see, it depends on quite a number of things.

Maybe that gives you something to think (and read) about!

regards

John

p.s. Oh and changing distros is easy. It's the differences in the installer(s) and how the distro actually works that can cause confusion
 
Old 05-29-2006, 10:45 AM   #3
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I don't think knoppix was ever meant to be actually installed on the hard drive. It is a live CD because you can boot up with it and it runs on your hardware without changing your HD installation.

I only use it for two reasons, one is to see if it will find the right modules for hardware that I might try to install linux on and two is to run linux on a machine when I don't want to change it. (aka a work computer, at a friends house, etc).

If you want to install linux on your hard drive you probably want to have a look at some of the install distros like Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora Core, etc.
 
Old 05-29-2006, 11:04 AM   #4
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Knoppix is one of the few LiveCD that is installable too.

One can install any distro on top of an existing one. The installer usually allows for two choices; keep the existing files or format the partition. There can be conflict problems if existing files are kept causing kernel to panic when the incorrect files were picked. A clearn install is to reforamt the "affected" partitions chosen by the installer. That is no need to reformat the hard disk, except one have only one system in the drive.

There is of course possibility to install more than one system in the hard disk. Usually a distro needs only about 5Gb for installation (Mandriva may need 10Gb) and there can be 63 partitions in an IDE disk. If you keep Knoppix its Lilo is good enough to multi-boot 27 systems. Knoppix also supports Grub which is capable of booting over 100 systems.

For a PC with only 256Mb ram Knoppix is top heavy and slow as it carries a lot of overheads for providing above-average functionalities.
 
  


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