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Old 01-09-2016, 02:41 AM   #1
gireste56
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kmail damages after update?


Hello,

I have SuSE 13.2 and kmail 4.14.9 on three different PCs. I'm working with four email-accounts at three different servers since 10 years and 20 000 mails, recieving mails with pop3, sendig with smtp and everything was fine until 20th of December. Since then I can recieve every mail but can only send from each one account. I never changed any setting during the last 6 month, but are doing the regular online updates from SuSE.

1. The settings should be o.k., Thunderbird is fine with them.
2. Sending from any other than the default account brings:

Code:
sending failed, 5.7.1 <xxx@tetumu.de> sender adress rejected: not owned by user xxx@arcor.de
Watching kmail on the command line showed:

Code:
kmail2 (5034) /kdepimlibs (mailtransport) could not access outbox
3. A dozend attemps of deleting kmail, fresh installing, new owners, different settings and configurations brought the following observations: Each time only the first identity with the settings for the smtp.server is accepted for sending and, no matter, which email account it is. Recieving is no problem in any account. The last attempt I consequently skipped kwallet, so I had to give in the required password for the accounts each time separately. There I noticed, that whatever smtp.server I wanted to use, the password for the default server was asked.

Looking in google I found a link with obviously a similar question,

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...5443096-print/

but this guy had problems after an installation, whereas my systems were perfect for years.

My question is: What has happened (just to know for the next incident) and how can I solve this problem. I'm tired of using two mailing programs simultanously, one for recieving and one for sending.

Thanks!

Yours, Gisela
 
Old 01-09-2016, 06:50 PM   #2
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That is the SMTP server rejecting your mail as it has the wrong MAIL FROM address.
 
Old 01-09-2016, 10:57 PM   #3
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I just started using kmail, had the same problem and was getting the same message. Perhaps it was from the same cause.

In my case, it occurred when I set up my second (and subsequent) identities. After a couple of hours, I learned that, after using the account wizard and going to configure kmail, when establishing the identities (under the advanced tab) I had to click on the "Outgoing Account" box to set the SMTP server correctly. After that, it all worked, so long as I didn't un-check that box.

Hope that works for you.
 
Old 01-10-2016, 04:29 AM   #4
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kmail damages after update

Hi,

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Originally Posted by jbuckley2004 View Post
In my case, it occurred when I set up my second (and subsequent) identities. After a couple of hours, I learned that, after using the account wizard and going to configure kmail, when establishing the identities (under the advanced tab) I had to click on the "Outgoing Account" box to set the SMTP server correctly. After that, it all worked, so long as I didn't un-check that box.

Hope that works for you.
Right now I can only check one of my pcs. And my second identity was able to send after this little modification. <yippieeeh!> The third and forth (both at 1&1) complained about a "wrong password", but at least not 5.7.1 any longer. This deserves a closer look: Is this a matter of kwallet or the setting of "outgoing server" (which still should be o.k.)?
I will try with my main pc tonight and let you know. Remains the question, who or what has changed the settings of kmail.

Meantime thanks a lot!
 
Old 01-10-2016, 01:31 PM   #5
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Hi, jbuckley

Sitting at my "PC Nr1" and was sending from identity two and three after the main manipulation, as you had described (and after changing other bits and pieces, because during the last few days I desparately had messed around in what ever I found to mess around.)

I am still most suspicious, but if my pc still recieves *and* sends during the next days you will have rewarded any first price.

Thank you so much!
 
Old 01-10-2016, 02:21 PM   #6
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Good! I'm pretty sure that kwallet isn't involved, but I'll tell ya, my confusion was caused by the way the "Outgoing Account" stuff is presented. I think I was expecting the button to allow me to change it when clicked (and it did) and then lock it in when un-clicked. It didn't. (There's a lesson in "human factors engineering" buried in there someplace.)

Something causes it to revert to some other choice, and I suspect the trigger is sending an e-mail from a different account. I'd have to experiment to check that, but since it works for me now, hardly seems worth the effort.

If it's working for you now, I'm glad I could help.
 
Old 01-10-2016, 04:30 PM   #7
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I have just one explanation (beside the suspicion, that I simply have lost my mind): This button in the advanced settings of "identities" is new and the result of any update. Because I can't think of any other reason, why everything was fine for years on each pc until middle of December and since nothing was fine on any pc.
The problem with my third identity was quickly solved: During my search after a solution I had copied in one of the settings exactly, what Thunderbird found out for its configuration- and there some details are slightly different to what kmail wanted to know.

Now I'll still try to send mails once in broad daylight and once at full moon and then I regard the problem as solved!

Thank you to everybody for reading and especially for the quick solution! :-)
 
  


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