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Old 09-13-2010, 02:44 PM   #1
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Question Kiwi10.08 -on the Ubuntu10.04.1 desktop... Can You Save files to the BootUSB?


First off Hello to everyone! This BBS interface setup is quick, simple, plenty of options, its handy, and follows a similar format that other places do so you can know what to expect or where to look. Double bonus if your a busy person!

I'd love to say a very big thanks to all those who help out. Especially for the creators and authors of programs many of us have come to enjoy. Don't forget to say a big thanx to the "Grand Father" of Linux, Linus Torvald.

Ok, this ol' fudge is trying to figure out how to save some files to a Live Thumbdrive USBboot of Kiwi10.08 which is running on the Ubuntu 10.04.1 desktop.

Using the included File Manager, I can access the fat32 USB flashdrive, read the folder named "Buk" I created in XP at the root of the drive and displayed as "isodevices/Buk" when viewed through "System Files" or "Files System", which ever it is.

The options to copy/move itesm to that folder are greyed out or missing. Both copy and move options seem to work as normal otherwise on the desktop. I should check and see if it is even saving/modifying items there but I would almost guess to be correct in saying... NO! As i said this is a kind of Live boot from the Kiwi ISO.

I was told about "Chown" but I have not a clue of it and the Wiki just made my head ring.

One more question, where can I find a good ol' Linux Dunce Reference that wont confuse you more. Don't get me wrong, I tried math for dummies once, it confused me more, so I re-wrote the pages as I went, or thats what we're suppose to do ?

I greatly appreciate your ideas or help!

- Z
 
Old 09-15-2010, 09:26 PM   #2
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Still looking for ideas on this mix

Trying to save a file to the USB drive but Kiwi does not seem to allow such. Is this the same thing on all Ubuntu kernels ?
 
Old 09-15-2010, 10:09 PM   #3
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You sound Like you are having a permission issue with writing anything to USB in Kiwi Linux.

Not familiar with the distro. If Ubuntu based. And If Gnome Desktop.

Try in Terminal

Code:
gksu nautilus
Password. File Manager Nautilus Opens as Root. See if Copy and paste are greyed out now.

Edit: After re reading your post, (hard to follow for a west tx southerner) that kiwi iso is probably a read only iso file which definitely is a permissions issue. chown as you say, you gotta learn
to change read only file properties.

By the way

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Is this the same thing on all Ubuntu kernels ?
It's not a kernel thing. It is the way a live Iso is made.

2nd Edit: Told ya this southerner has a hard time following this.

You say Kiwi is a Live USB running inside Ubuntu? Definitely not familiar with this kind of Live USB.

You might look into making that Kiwi what ever it is, a persistent live usb. Then changes (writes) can be saved. Like in my Puppeee frugal 4 gig SD external flash and AntiX 8.5 base persistent 4gig SD external flash.

Last edited by rokytnji; 09-15-2010 at 10:27 PM. Reason: interpetation to redneck
 
Old 09-15-2010, 10:34 PM   #4
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One more question, where can I find a good ol' Linux Dunce Reference that wont confuse you more
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual

http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html

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Old 09-15-2010, 10:40 PM   #5
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Hmm...

Ok to answer all your questions...

Kiwi is running live ON a USB Flashdrive (not in).

I am not trying to write anything inside the iso when it is running but at the root of the Flashdrive.

Thats about it.

The folder would look like this in windows...

WINDOWS:
C:\ being boot drive

d:\ being flashdrive

D:\Buk <-- my folder

IN KIWI:
my folder being/showing --> isodevice\Buk

KIWI's integrated File Manager shows it like the above Linux listing..

That should clear all that up..

Thats all I can remember but thats what I am working on. Forget the rest for now.

Thanx for your reply too!

- Z
 
Old 09-16-2010, 12:34 AM   #6
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I am not trying to write anything inside the iso when it is running but at the root of the Flashdrive
So when you right click on root. Guessing here. We are continents apart. Midnight here. I am going to bed after this post. Bleary eyed and Tired.

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isodevice\Buk
what does properties say as far as permissions? In Ubuntu 10.04 Gnome Desktop. USB automounts and shows drive as a Icon on Desktop. Left double click opens Nautilus File manager and shows files in USB. You should be able to right click on any file and select
properties>permissions. If root shows that it can write to file. Then you need to open current directory as root. I am in my AntiX install right now hich uses pcmanfm instead of nautilus for a file manager. So I can't say which tab on toolbar or right click will give you open current directory as root. Sorry.

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Kiwi is running live ON a USB Flashdrive (not in).
Ok. What threw me was

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Ok, this ol' fudge is trying to figure out how to save some files to a Live Thumbdrive USBboot of Kiwi10.08 which is running on the Ubuntu 10.04.1 desktop.
So are you trying to write/add files whatever to the live ISO using Ubuntu 10.04 or Windows?

Easier to do in Ubuntu.

Good Night and Happy Trails, Rok
 
Old 09-18-2010, 04:45 PM   #7
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rokytnji,

thank you for your ideas, i'll jot some of these down and then hop in and see what I find out.

So much technical hoo-ru at times you try to make it direct and simple and it still gets off kilter.

ok, "Kiwi Linux" (as its called) version 10.08 (means released 2010 August) is a Ubuntu version 10.04 Linux Kernel x.x.x.x which ever, Gnome desktop, mod... if you will, is what we are working on.

I never noted about "inside". What I meant was it runs the Gnome desktop. I said on *Shrug*

I think what confused this is thinking I was running a VM Live distro setup inside Ubuntu and a Gnome desktop somwhere. heh.

The Linux world has a few speech hook kinks. I'm was running on the Kiwi 10.08 Gnome desktop LiveCD iso, via a Flash-Memory Thumbdrive, with no Virual Management ware

I think thats what confused it.

I will try your suggested root ideas. I noticed in Kiwi and read that some items are locked out of editing/modifying while running live. All that persistence stuff too is new to me.

I made another short attempt the other day to save some files on the Kiwi Live Thumbdrive which failed, period. I cannot save a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g to even the root of the device. Its like the entire USB is locked, period. It will let me download and save items to the desktop and copy those over to another device.

Parted Magic allows you to save to the Live Thumbdrive. *shrug*

I also think it was Kiwi that would not let me lock the screen when i had to walk away. I tried making some mods to groups/passwords that failed. You cannot change the "registry" too I had found, as it noted it must be installed to modify this option.

What I am saying is all this might be a futile effort

We'll see what happens...

i'll be back......
 
  


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