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Old 09-01-2005, 10:31 PM   #46
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Well I am going to go to bed now, I will keep this thread alive, I am still not sure what is going on
 
Old 09-02-2005, 02:27 AM   #47
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bosewicht just to let you know I can only partly help (am still new to Linux)

Tsukasa7,

The ./configure step did not work properly because you do not have
installed the source of the kernel.

Type
uname -r
will give you the version of the kernel

Then go to mandrake control center (sometimes called MCC)
see
http://linux.techteam.gr/docs/mandra...t-install.html
and install the source code of the kernel (the heart of the operating system)
corresponding to the version you have

go back to the ./configure step

Did you look at http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ ?
Type the lines the website gives you at the end in a terminal as root.
Once you have done this, possibly MCC - install software might come
with an already made package for your sound card


Try this on the side as root in a terminal (and report results)
locate snd_ca0106

Sometimes one needs the location of the driver

You may need some basic reading on the side, for your spare time:
http://linux.techteam.gr/docs/mandrake/10/starter/
(you have 10.1 have you not? the starter guide should be on your pc,
otherwise you will have to install the doc via MCC)
 
Old 09-02-2005, 02:43 AM   #48
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keep going with the ./configure then make then make install

also try to tinker with harddrake for the sound card
http://linux.techteam.gr/docs/mandra...harddrake.html

you may also type alsaconf (as root) in a terminal and see
if you can get the card to work that way

How old is this sound card? I am a bit surprised it is not working
out of the box
 
Old 09-02-2005, 07:40 AM   #49
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As an alternative, what bosewicht and Emmanuel_uk say is correct. "But", this is mandrake (now mandriva) you're talking about.

The instructions thus far, are "proper" linux instructions. I personally didn't attempt that stuff (as a "child of windows" I still don't if I can avoid it) until I'd been "at it" for about 18 months.

So a few other possible pointers.

Mandrake/Mandriva is designed to make things "easier" (alledgedly). With that in mind, you should go to your mandrake control centre/MCC/configure my computer. There you will find a "Software manager/management" icon. Click that. Then you should see options to add, remove, update and I think the fourth one is something like configure/update sources.

So far, your efforts in installing the ALSA stuff have pointed to some errors - the main one IMO, is missing "kernel-sources". Which you need for some stuff anyway, but they aren't usually installed by default.

You will need to ascertain which kernel version you have so do
Code:
uname -r
in a terminal. Now I can't remember if you have to be root in a terminal (kde calls them "Konsoles") or not, try it as user, if it doesn't tell you, then do the "su" command (no quotes) and enter, then put in the root password when asked. Once the "prompt" changes to something finishing with a # then try again.

Now, knowing the kernel version, into the MCC software manager to the "RPMDrake+" section (adding software). Let it finish making the listing, then scroll down, until you see the bit that says something like "kernel-sources-2.6.8-1mdk" (the numbers should match the kernel version that you already obtained - as long as you haven't configured your software location sources, it should be listed. Highlight/check the box and then hit install - if it wants one of the discs, it should ask you to put disc number ??? into the drive and hit OK.

Once the install is finished, remove the disc from the drive.

Then, go back into the software manager at the "RPMDrake+" (you are probably still there) and go down the listing to the ALSA stuff. I used to just check all the ALSA entries as I wasn't sure what I actually needed. Again click install. If it needs a disc, it'll ask (as above). Let it finish.

When it has, remove disc and then click quit/finish/back (don't recall which).

When you are back into the main screen for the MCC you should see a hardware icon, click that. When it's finished making a list of the hardware that it can find, you should be able to scroll down to something that indicates sound or sound card (sorry I'm typing this from memory). Click that.

You should then end up with a box with two sections one of them has a couple of buttons, configure and something else. one of them opens a multi choice dialogue for you to select options, most of which are (from memory) self explainatory - I'm guessing it's just selecting the incorrect driver (my system always used to do that, as my sound card is a late soundblaster and it used to need the emu10k1, but the install always defaulted to the Audigy() driver). Then finish/close.

I'm presuming that you're using the mandrake default of KDE (which I feel is more "windowsesque" if you've only just changed too linux).

If so, you can then open the "other" control centre (the KDE one, listed as configure my desktop). Under sound and multimedia, select system sound - under the general tab, theres a "test sound" button. Try it. If nothing, you will have to check the main menu for multimedia and you will need to click on one of the sound mixers (I think Kmix is installed by default). Make sure it's not muted as it usually is by default.

Then go back to the kde control centre and try the "test sound" thing again, as long as you have volume turned up you should hear the kde jingle - again, if not, still in the kde control centre>sound and multimedia>system sounds, instead of the general tab, click the hardware tab. You should see a drop down, click that and make sure that you select the ALSA (advanced linux sound architecture) option - the click apply (Oh, I'd forgotten to say, that if you change anything in the kde control centre, you will usually have to click "apply" to make any changes).

Then back at the general tab, the "enable system sound" check box/radio button should show that the system sound is enabled.

Then try the "test sound" button again. In theory, you should have heard the kde jingle by now.

thats all I ever had to do.

So, if you still have problems, visit the mandrake forum here at LQ and do a search for "sound problem" (or something like that) or you can also look at
these forums. Thats not too put you off LQ in anyway, just that the advice/ideas/suggestions/tips and tricks are mandrake/mandriva (the same thing) specific.

Maybe that helps some

regards

John

p.s. @ bosewicht and Emmanuel_uk, that lot isn't meant to "step on your toes" or anything like that. It's just that when I first started with linux (and mandrake) anything that was CLI just used to make a loud "whooshing" sound as it went over my head, after confusing the hell out of me So I learned to do a fair number of things in full graphic mode. it's just that now I run Gentoo so I can only work from memory. Hope you don't feel that my post is "interferring". It's not meant to be, but this thread is about mandrake, which is (again, alledgedly) supposed to be easy
 
Old 09-02-2005, 08:16 AM   #50
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John, no worries, thanks for helping. The more the merrier. I tried to mix some CLI and gear the things toward MCC, but I am still young at all this, and teaching skills, well, building up as well. I started linux with mandrake 10.1 and quickly found a mix of CLI and GUI was good. But this I suppose for a newbie depends on their previous (e.g. dos) experience. Going on holidays tonight, so I am sure the sound will be working in this thread by the time I am back :-)

Funny how your signature has Rute, and I found it recently googling.
After all this must be a small world.

If we could somehow collect in LQ bookmark the links that people have in their signature we would have the crème de la crème for the links newbies should look at
Will post this in LQ suggestions
 
Old 09-02-2005, 10:43 AM   #51
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Thanks guys, I'll try it a little later when I go on Linux, I'm too tired to do anything right now.
 
Old 09-02-2005, 12:03 PM   #52
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OK, I am in the Rpmdrake 10.1 program, and what exactly am I looking for to install? Where do I find the souce code? After I did the uname -r it said

2.6.8.1-12mdksmp

So I am assuming that is what I have, now I just don't know where to find it in the MCC
 
Old 09-02-2005, 12:15 PM   #53
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I have found some similar looking file names, but none exact, I have found some that say 2.6.8.1.12 mdk, and one that says 2.6-2.8.1-12mdk, but non have the smp at the end, or have the exact numbers
 
Old 09-02-2005, 12:50 PM   #54
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Ok, I've made it all the way to step 7 in the orignal instructions, and I don't know how to edit that, or find the driver I need, by the way, I am using Gnome 2.6, I like it more than KDE

Last edited by Tsukasa7; 09-02-2005 at 12:51 PM.
 
Old 09-02-2005, 01:36 PM   #55
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Can anyone help? I am getting ffarther and farther each time you guys help me, but right now I am stuck
 
Old 09-02-2005, 02:49 PM   #56
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Thanks bigjohn, I don't feel you are stepping on any toes at all. Your instructions were excellent, much better than I could give....I am not too familiar with Mandr<insert here> and I normally live in the CLI, so i prefer doing things that way.

Tsukasa7
What step are you on that you are having probs with?
 
Old 09-02-2005, 02:50 PM   #57
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Step 7 in the normal instructions, or when he says looking in Hardware for sound, I know where it is, but am I doing anything to it, cause I can't run the config tool.
 
Old 09-02-2005, 03:06 PM   #58
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The KDE Control Centre? either open a terminal and type kcontrol& or go to run application and type kcontrol. There should be something like that in gnome as well though
 
Old 09-02-2005, 03:11 PM   #59
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How do I get from Gnome to KDE?
 
Old 09-02-2005, 03:12 PM   #60
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Log out. Then at the login screen select "Session" and choose kde
 
  


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