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Old 06-15-2004, 02:10 PM   #16
Pose
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Ok..


So, I installed Slackware again today. Install went good, and quick. At boot up I have a shitload of lsmod i801 errors. So, I set up xf86, and it works good. KDE loads up just fine. I still can't use my USB mouse though, even with the tip in EThitop's signature. Next I open '/ect/hotplug/blacklist' and scroll to the bottom, and add 'i801_rng', save. At reboot, I still get all of those lsmod i801 errors, though. I then tried again..but this time I erased my previous modification and did the following:
hw_rand
i801_rng

Which I got from a Slackware installation guide on this site. Unfortunately I still get the lsmod i801 errors at startup.


Next, I open /ect/lilo.conf and add:
other = /dev/hda1
label = Windows
table= /dev/hda

Like I did last time, but this time..no matter what, Windows will not show up under Lilo. So I run 'liloconfig' and add a Windows partition from the Expert menu, unfortunately I forgot to add the Linux partition, too..so now at Lilo I only have Windows. How can I get back into Linux to add it in the Lilo menu?


I think that's all for now. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. Any help is appreciated.
 
Old 06-15-2004, 06:28 PM   #17
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lee low

efter editing, /etc/lilo.conf
did you remember to run lilo?



also, to boot your slack distro. you can use
your -slackware bootdisk-

in case you didnt make any, try booting using
slackware cdrom 1, selecting your slackware partition when prompted.

lizos.

Last edited by scorsese; 06-15-2004 at 06:31 PM.
 
Old 06-16-2004, 03:08 AM   #18
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I did make the boot disk, but for some reason it keeps saying "This is not a bootable disk, please insert one and hit enter". I tried the Slack CD1, but didn't get anywhere with it . I think I'm cursed or something.
 
Old 06-16-2004, 03:41 AM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pose
I did make the boot disk, but for some reason it keeps saying "This is not a bootable disk, please insert one and hit enter". I tried the Slack CD1, but didn't get anywhere with it . I think I'm cursed or something.
Yeah that is right after editting lilo.conf
you have to run lilo by typing
lilo
in your console.

Also having a run-from-CD Linux (ie Knoppix or any would do) can be handy in situations like this.

But Pose - of what I know Slackware / Debian / Gentoo can be very difficult for the newstarter.
Of course you will end up knowing 10x more than the average user if you manage to beat all the challenges ahead.

I know it's not much of a help now - but I would consider at least Mandrake to get yourself going.
It will pick most hardward just fine.


Recap:

No USB which I HAVE to have -> Easier distros will do that for you automatically.

Winmodem -> Buy a Router! It will solve the problem immediately + you get extra security + you can easily share internet between PCs (no matter what operating system they use).

Can't use KDE, because of video issues.. -> Easier distros will do that for you automatically. But we can have a look into getting more out of your video card.

Do this - as it seems all this is eating you up with frustration:
Get Mandrake 10.0
And one day you can go back to Slackware.

Because I am not a Slackware user I can't help you much after a certain point.
People say Slackware users are the most knowledgeable folks around,
but again you can always install this distro some later time if that is your goal.

If you get Mandrake 10.0, I will help you throughout (or at least give my best) - all free of charge. OK?

Last edited by henryg; 06-16-2004 at 03:44 AM.
 
Old 06-16-2004, 04:39 PM   #20
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I'd have to say to you Pose, stick with slackware, I started off with slackware
and then tried many distributions (red hat, suse, debian, gentoo) and i
came to the conclusion that slackware is a clean mean distribution.

Just stick to it, and try to solve your problems, you'll benefit from it.

Try creating another bootdisk to start your system, and fix your lilo.conf
---> remember to run "lilo" afterwards!!!

Check out the following pages...

slackware guide on creating boordisks from windows:
--------------------------------------------------------
http://www.slackware.com/install/bootdisk.php


bootdisk how-to:
------------------
http://tldp.net/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/x1422.html


I remember there used to be another site where you could download bootdisks for linux,
and create them in windows, using rawrite.
...but can't remember where. Try searching google for it.

Cheers.

Last edited by scorsese; 06-16-2004 at 04:51 PM.
 
Old 06-16-2004, 07:38 PM   #21
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in a roundabout way, but try doing a 'modprobe ati' to make sure that if the drivers for the 9200 aren't compiled into your kernel, they're at least installed as a module.
 
Old 06-16-2004, 07:39 PM   #22
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yeah what is the point him sticking to Slackware if its being more frustrating than beneficial?
and think very well
you did the round circle: red hat (easier) -> suse (even easier) -> debian (harder) -> gentoo (even harder) -> slackware (hardest)
on this round trip you managed to take a breather and gather/learn things from different views & angles ... when you finally got back to Slackware all made much more sense.

him sticking with Slackware will *not* help him at all + it may put him off Linux for good (which I don't think its fair)

now if you are willing to help him out all the way with Slackware via some IM - like I am with Mandrake ... then fine - I think that *is* fair.

let him at least have a taste of other easier distros gather more knowledge and then come back.

not even you sticked with Slackware in the beggining so why on earth should he?

i know of ppl giving up for good and then cursing Linux no end - i really dont like that.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 12:47 AM   #23
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Well, I do have Knoppix..so I guess I couldve just edited the lilo.conf file from there, right? The only problem is, I dont know how to add Linux to it. I know how to add Windows, but Linux was different..it wasnt only "other, label, table"..so if you could please explain to me what I need to add to the lilo.conf, I'd be much grateful.

I made a bootdisk for Linux (thanks for the links btw), and loaded it up..I followed the example of how to boot Linux from the disk..after doing so, it did the whole "uncompressing" thing..but from there it just went back to the menu I got when booting from the Slackware disk.

Anyone have anything to add about the 'lsmod i801_rng" errors I get at linux boot up still?

Thanks for all of the help, guys.

Edit- I forgot to add, I'm on a dial up connection, so downloading another Distro just can't happen..but when I have the time I'll consider ordering one to install as a second distro. Thanks for the offer of helping me configure it!

Last edited by Pose; 06-17-2004 at 12:48 AM.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 03:34 AM   #24
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fine...

this is what to do:

1. boot using your slackware cd-rom.

2. when the cd-rom boots you get a "boot: " prompt. at this prompt enter the following:

bare.i root=/dev/hdXZ noinitrd ro

where X substitute your hard disk drive,

where Z substitute the partition on which you installed your root (/) filesystem.

e.g. If you installed linux on the same disk with windows and you created 2 partitions for linux, 1 for swap and 1 for (/). then,
I guess the correct command would be: bare.i root=/dev/hda3 noinitrd ro

3. then after boot-up, log in as root and edit your /etc/lilo.conf
I'm posting a complete lilo.conf to show you an example:

---------------------------------------------------------------------
# LILO configuration file

# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda
map=/boot/map
message = /boot/boot_message.txt
prompt
timeout = 1200
# End LILO global section

# DOS bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/hda1
label = xp
table = /dev/hda
# DOS bootable partition config ends

# Linux 2.4 Kernel
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/hdb3
label = slackware
read-only
# Linux 2.4 Kernel config ends
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have linux on a separate hard disk, and I have a (/boot) and a Swap partition,
thats why root=/dev/hdb3 , (/) is mounted there.
So change the configuration accordingly.

...Oh! and remember to run lilo after saving your lilo.conf in order for the changes to take effect.

lizos.

Last edited by scorsese; 06-17-2004 at 03:43 AM.
 
Old 06-17-2004, 09:05 AM   #25
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Hello,

It seems like our intrepit poster is lost in a world of troubles.... Slackware doesn't configure and work automatically 'out of the box' that is clear. I started on Mandrake linux 9.1 and found it to be very user friendly, cool looking, etc. However, I actually learn't very little about linux using this (and 9.2) distro. I thought getting 'flash player' working was a major achievement. I recently switched to slackware 9.1 and have found there to be a steep learning curve. I have learnt so much that I would never have learnt in Mandrake. In retospect I could easily solve any problems i had in Mandrake now. That said, I think Mandrake helped me move away from windows and broadened my horizons... I think compiling kernels, configuring Xfree/Xorg etc, is a bit intimidating for those brought up on Windoze.

So, I have a suggestion - why not run both Mandrake/Redhat (or whatever) and Slack 9.1 (a standard install) at the same time? I think it's a good comprimise. You can acutally see how files are configured in your 'easy' distro and apply that to configuring files manually in Slackware. I agree, there is no point putting people off Linux by making it too hard....

Btw, www.tldp.org is a good place for 'how-to' guides. Including linux basics etc.

Comprimise feels good
 
Old 06-19-2004, 09:12 PM   #26
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Pose, I would suggest you check out Shilo's Guide and read through that. It's not a bad guide and may help you solve a few of your problems. As for your USB mouse, I'm not sure why my signature tip isn't helping. I have tried so many things to get my mouse working and it didn't until I told /etc/X11/XF86Config to look for my mouse in "/dev/input/mice" (without the quotes).

At current, my XF86Config for my mouse is configured like so:
Quote:
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Hopefully you will get some things figured out soon.
 
Old 06-20-2004, 12:19 AM   #27
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If you want an up and running desktop that's easy to use and set up, use mandrake (et al)

If you want to get into the bowels of linux, use slack or maybe debian.

I started with slack waaaay back. But now I just want a working desktop PC that works so I can do my work on :-) So I use mandrake...

linux user since 1995.
 
Old 06-20-2004, 12:50 AM   #28
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EThitop, your said "/dev/input/mice" twice in your post but your sig says "/dev/input/mouse" maybe that is why it didn't work for him?

edit: **Smacks himself** i'm not even 20 yet and I'm already experienced old age...just ignore this post I guess. I have no clue why I thought that.

Last edited by vdogvictor; 06-20-2004 at 12:52 AM.
 
Old 06-21-2004, 12:40 AM   #29
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vdogvictor yeah but maybe Pose didn't realize it should be "mice" either so maybe your mistake there could be a blessing in disguise! You never know!
 
  


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