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Old 08-27-2004, 04:41 AM   #1
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Question Is there a less machine-demanding KDE version?


I´ve got just a 1997 Pentium 200 MMX with 32 mb RAM.

XWindow System works very fluid with this machine. I tried
KDE 3.1 and since its minimum requires 64 mb RAM, KDE
loads -with 32-, but working is impossible.

I was just wondering if there is anything less demanding
for the computer in terms of graphic environment. Don´t
get me wrong: I fell happy with X by now, it was just
curiosity.

Or maybe there is a way in which KDE runs smoother in
the machine....maybe deactivating or unselecting things?

It´s just a thinking...Does anybody have an idea?

Thx in advace,
Juanja.
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:44 AM   #2
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try windowmaker or blackbox, they are kinda plain, but they get the job done.
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:56 AM   #3
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I've got KDE 1x running in a Pentium 1 - 166MHZ with 32 of RAM smoothly with Deli Linux:

http://delilinux.berlios.de/

and here is a snapshot of my desktop

http://www.geocities.com/kooltux/sna...11_desktop.gif

http://www.geocities.com/kooltux/sna..._smiletris.gif

it's quite alright, I guess
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:56 AM   #4
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I dunno if a newer version of KDE will favour overall performance increase, as it has been improved but also has more features added. You can still turn some things off, like the Components and Konqueror memory management.

I suggest you try Fluxbox or Enlightenment with good themes, they'll give you all the features you need with less overhead.
 
Old 08-27-2004, 04:56 AM   #5
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I always use fluxbox now irrespective of the machine spec, KDE is a very heavy weight desktop environment as opposed to the light weight window managers such as fluxbox. I would suggest trying some window managers as opposed to KDE and you will find your machine will speed up considerably.
R0UTE
 
Old 08-27-2004, 05:17 AM   #6
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R0UTE, Proud, Megaman X, Jengo; thank you all.

You´ve been very useful.

Megaman X posts an incredible set of snapshots
of his KDE 1.x desktop on a P166 32mb as well.

So this can be done with old machines!!.

By the way:
Where can I download Fluxbox?
 
Old 08-27-2004, 05:20 AM   #7
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you can download fluxbox from
http://fluxbox.sf.net
Have fun
R0UTE
 
Old 08-30-2004, 07:03 AM   #8
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How do I start Fluxbox?

Right, Route; thx.

I´ve downloaded and decompressed Fluxbox for SuSE.
I rpm'ed it ok and installed it correctly.


It creates a folder called /fluxbox and an executable (I think) called
fluxbox-installer.
Ok. What I do now?

How do I start Fluxbox?
 
Old 08-30-2004, 07:07 AM   #9
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Have u tried running fluxbox-installer
./fluxbox-installer in the directory of the file.
Try this, this may install it, i'm not sure because I have never had to install it in this manner, also there should be installation docs on the fluxbox site. If you're still having problems post again or pm me if you want and if u have any IM software i can talk to you on that if you wish.
Have fun
Matt
 
Old 08-30-2004, 02:20 PM   #10
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Quote:
Have u tried running fluxbox-installer
./fluxbox-installer in the directory of the file.
I don´t find any fluxbox file excepting the one with the
.rpm extension that I downloaded.

I read the electronic documentation from the fluxbox site.

In the part called "Running Fluxbox" you read a paragraph
where it says:

"The next step is to find the executable for Fluxbox. For
most people, this is /usr/local/bin/fluxbox."

Well, there is no such path in my system. I searched manually
in etc, usr/local, usr/local/share, X11 and X11R86. I didn´t
find any executable fluxbox.
As I told you I typed:

'rpm -il (for install) fluxbox-0.9.8-1-suse-9.0.i386.rpm'

And after a few seconds, the system prompts again

linux:/home/juanja #> (in my case). No other message.

To check that I un-rpm'ed the thing correctly, I tested again:
'rpm -il fluxbox-0.9.8-1-suse-9.0.i386.rpm'

...and the system answers:

package fluxbox-0.9.8-1 is already installed.

Thus I 'suppose' the decompression of the package went ok.

So what should I do then? I don´t find any .xsession nor any
.xinit. to edit or modify, instead I´ve got a .xsession-errors (a
blank file), and a .xinit.template which can be edited, both found
into my /home/juanja directory.

where should I go next?
Many thanks for your time.
 
Old 08-30-2004, 02:54 PM   #11
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XFce, the so-called "Cholesterol-Free Desktop Environment", is said to be very light and fast. I would go with Fluxbox or Blackbox, though, with only 32 megs of RAM.

On second thought, I would more readily go for a RAM upgrade...
 
Old 08-30-2004, 03:26 PM   #12
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Try doing `updatedb` before `rpm -qa | grep -i fluxbox` to make sure it is installed.

To start it on login, you need to edit a couple of files. As root, open /etc/inittab in a text editor. Find the line that says "init:x:default" (where 'x' is a number). The file should have comments which indicate which runlevel does not start the X server. Edit the line to replace 'x' with this number, save and exit the editor.

You can create your own xinitrc by doing (in your user account, not root) `touch ~/.xinitrc`. Then do `which fluxbox` and take a note of the output, which should be the path to the fluxbox executable, something like usr/local/fluxbox. Open xinitrc and add `exec path/to/fluxbox` (no quotes, where path/to/fluxbox is the output from `which fluxbox`). Save and exit.

Logout, log back in (you should be at a text prompt) do `startx` and fluxbox should fire up.
 
Old 08-31-2004, 03:08 AM   #13
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Quote:
Try doing `updatedb`...
`rpm -qa | grep -i fluxbox´
`which fluxbox`
Should I type the stuff "exactly as written excepting the colons?"

Thx, Mugstar!!!
 
Old 08-31-2004, 03:23 AM   #14
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Yep ... just the commands minus the '

Baldrick
 
Old 08-31-2004, 03:26 AM   #15
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I´ll give it a try this afternoon and see what happens.....Will post back the results!!
 
  


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