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godoten 12-18-2010 12:51 PM

Is it possible to install the LiveCD?
 
I have tried "lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2145" and found it fantastic for my simple use of computer.
I hardly can understand anything on the README.html file. I just wondered if it is possible to
install the LiveCD's OP system to a partition on my hard-disk-drive.If it is, would you tell me how?
Thank you,---godoten[ :)

EricTRA 12-18-2010 01:47 PM

Hello and Welcome to LinuxQuestions,

First of all LFS (Linux From Scratch) is not your everyday Linux distro. I've never tried to install the LiveCD onto harddisk although there are ways to do it (Google turns up with some sites like this one). However taking into account the difficulty of LFS and the fact that you seem to be new to Linux, I'd advice you to use another distro. Most of the LiveCD/LiveDVD have an install to harddisk option. Make your choice depending on what you want or need from your Linux distro.

Kind regards,

Eric

godoten 12-18-2010 02:38 PM

Thank you Eric
 
Dear Eric,

Thank you for your post. I am studying the article at the Link. I may
be able to manage to do it, with a bit of try and error? If I could then,
I would add programs I usually use, imagemagic and audacity ..etc.
I have tried it with `linux toram` to use for my normal use of my computer.
I was impressed with it's crisp response to my commands.

I was stack with SuSE-10.2 for a last few years because they made it
heavier and heavier up to SuSE-11.3. To my sense the "akonadi" was
the end of the fun of big linux distro. I need to find some distro without
the "akonadi", and came across LFS-LiveCD. It was a bliss.

To thank you I am putting a URL to a fantastic site below. I hope you
would spread the words about the site to all of your friends.

"Long Live!", my friend,---godoten:)
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"You are not suppose to die.....", by Otomakas
http://tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/en/welcome.html

jefro 12-18-2010 04:29 PM

There are plenty of ways to install some or maybe all live cd's. The problem is you shouldn't do that. Live cd's are made to be live. Consider a real install of some distro. Distro's offer more simple ways to update and add to.

ronlau9 12-18-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefro (Post 4196239)
There are plenty of ways to install some or maybe all live cd's. The problem is you shouldn't do that. Live cd's are made to be live. Consider a real install of some distro. Distro's offer more simple ways to update and add to.

But why than they make a install option on some live cds ?

EricTRA 12-20-2010 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefro (Post 4196239)
There are plenty of ways to install some or maybe all live cd's. The problem is you shouldn't do that. Live cd's are made to be live. Consider a real install of some distro. Distro's offer more simple ways to update and add to.

Hi jefro,

I disagree with your statement, sorry for that. But in my opinion the whole LiveCD/LiveDVD thing is meant to offer a possibility to try out a distro without installing it. Naturally there are several distros that are only meant to run as Live, or at the least preferred to use as Live, like security distros for penetration testing and all that nice stuff. If someone wants to try out a distro using a LiveCD/LiveDVD and after that wants to use it, then he/she should be free to do so involving the least hassle. There are several distros that come with such an installation option, like Knoppix, Mint, just to name a few. It's so much easier to just use the creator's install script/option to just install onto your harddisk instead of having to reboot from the same CD/DVD and use an install option/menu.

Kind regards,

Eric

MTK358 12-20-2010 08:23 AM

If you want a simple distro, check out Arch — it installs to just an absolute bare minimum working system (including no GUI), and you can install what you want.

godoten 12-20-2010 09:56 AM

Dear Friends,
 
I've done it! :):) :) I managed it with the instruction Eric's "Link" gave,
despite of difficulties with missing /dev entries. I had a copy of "the /dev of
the file system" from when I tried the LFS-Live CD loaded on to Ram. So I
copied "the /dev" over newly made /dev dir on a HD "updating-copy-with-(mc)".

A little problem to solve yet, though. At the start up, xkb-map and char-set
setting program I have to go through every time. Would you tell me which file
I should look into,...to edit a bit may be? This is beyond of my bash-ability
but I should learn about it in trying things like this?

Now I need to install some light(hopefully stand alone) weight editor with spell
check ability. I am used to gedit and kate on SuSE-10.2, but I am useless with
vi-family even with pico, nano or joe. I like "mc" a lot, but with it's editor I don't
know how to copy in and out with other thing like browsers or file fiewers. Is it
possible at all?

As you suggest I would try different distros to learn the subject better. But
why do they(big distros) not try to make system more efficient and smaller
and meaner instead of making it larger and heavier? Silly aren't they? Blxx-
xx akxnxdx, miss guided swine flu missiles!##*-+""~#*@##*&5^$.... But If
I think of it, it made me needing to look into smaller distros and finding friends
here so that I should be thankful to BlxxxyAkoxxxi may be?

Thanks MTK358, I would try "Arch" if I could manage to get GUI working with
it next. I am still on SuSE-10.2 for my everyday do, though. I think it was the
best of SuSE.By the way I would suggest you to check out "abeldanger.net"
for the latest world news on dead heat.

I hope you have resonated with "The most positive thought" and live long.
I wonder if Mr. Linuz T. would,... to look after his "Linux World" for good.

Thank you,---godoten :D

MTK358 12-20-2010 10:00 AM

Please don't color your text for no reason.

godoten 12-20-2010 10:43 AM

Sorry MTK358,
 
I used color to make more fun of reading at the other forums I post to talk
about our life and death. I should have known that I shouldn't here? I editted
color out now.

Thank you for your reminding me,---godoten

w1k0 12-20-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godoten (Post 4197831)
I like "mc" a lot, but with it’s editor I don’t know how to copy in and out with other thing like browsers or file fiewers. Is it possible at all?

To copy the snippet of text from Midnight Commander’s editor to the other application:

1. Go to Midnight Commander’s editor.
2. Press Shift key.
3. Use left mouse button to select the text still keeping Shift key pressed.
4. Release Shift key.
5. Go to the other application.
6. Use middle mouse button to paste the text in the other application.

To copy the snippet of text from the other application to Midnight Commander’s editor:

1. Go to the other application.
2. Use left mouse button to select the text.
3. Go to Midnight Commander’s editor.
4. Press Shift key.
5. Use middle mouse button to paste the text in Midnight Commander’s editor still keeping Shift key pressed.
6. Release Shift key.

Tip:

To run Midnight Commander’s editor without running Midnight Commander use mcedit command.

godoten 12-20-2010 12:02 PM

Whaohh...!
 
:hattip:Dear w1k0,

That's great! More so now, I can't do without "mc"!

A while ago, I found the editor's blue background color makes the color-scheme
of program files difficult to read, and tried to compile with "black" background on
"mc-6.3.1" by editing "color.c". It worked fine until some garbage start to show up
on file manager screen lately. I may try with a later version again, though I feel
bad about it knowing why it is called "Midnight Commander".

Thank you "Why-1-KO!",---godoten ;)

CodeFreaker 12-20-2010 12:17 PM

Live CD are limited with packages and it takes so much time when you update the system.but try to use DVD version there you can select any Desktop environment Gnome or KDE etc and any other packages.

w1k0 12-20-2010 12:46 PM

As for colors the most radical option is to start Midnight Commander with mc -b command or just Midnight Commander’s editor with mcedit -b command. I believe there is also possible to change the color’s scheme of Midnight Commander. Just look at man mc.

As for the name Midnight Commander is the successor of old DOS application by Peter Norton Computing named Norton Commander. You could read about it here.

Norton Commander was the best file manager invented in the history of computing. Calling it the best I mean the idea of the application not the implementation of that idea. The best implementation for DOS was Volkov Commander and the best implementation for Unix is Midnight Commander.

godoten 12-20-2010 03:46 PM

WhaoWhaoWhaohh...!
 
:hattip:Dear w1k0,

I hardly read man page is my problems. It is the habit I have developed
in years by trying to learn about things by reading "tutorials" which never
told things "simply to the points I want to know", not like you did here.
I am amazed with your help and am ashamed of myself. I MUST read
the man page of such important thing as "MC" not to stay so ignorant.
I am very grateful for the lesson. Thank you "W-1-KO".:doh:

[I've got mixed feeling]

Why I found "LFS-LiveCD" so good was that it had "scim" well functional
at first place. As I have to write in Japanese occasionally "scim" is
essential to me. When I tried the latest Slackware or Mandriva, the both
were infected with "Akxxnxdi!" and been given up, it was a bit of struggle
to get it working. It was a surprize to find it in the liveCD working perfectly.

It is a strange thing that unless things goes wrong I never learn anything.
I've got mixed feeling about it "If I should be thankful instead of being
annoyed". What ever I have leaned about linux is because something didn't
work or gone wrong. I have no expert next to me to show me the things, it
is very frustrating being novice trying to get things working. Yet again I am
learning not to get frustrated so badly at the same time. It must be that
"Everything is for Good", just depending on how we take of anything?

"Long Live!", all the friends of "the Positive Thoughts",---godoten ;)


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