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Linux_n00b_57 06-29-2005 06:00 PM

Is it possible...
 
Ok i installed slackware(for the fifth time) with GNOME and KDE...expect it kind slugish...is there a way to change the default startx to start Fluxbox or ICEwm without reinstalling?

rkettle 06-29-2005 06:03 PM

erm.... install it and choose it at login ;)

perfect_circle 06-29-2005 06:06 PM

In order to select a default window manager try:
Code:

xwmconfig

Linux_n00b_57 06-29-2005 06:13 PM

Alright i'll give it a try....

Linux_n00b_57 06-29-2005 06:28 PM

thanks worked fine..gnome didnt load correctly...but switching the wm was smooth :D

perfect_circle 06-29-2005 06:44 PM

if you are reffering to slack 10.1, gnome was deprecated, and now completely removed from slackware current.


P.S.1: this is a distro specific question and you would get more and better replies if you posted it in slackware instead of linux newbie.

P.S.2:this will help you with slackware:
The Unofficial Revised Slackware Book Project

Charred 06-29-2005 07:28 PM

Gnome probably didn't load correctly because you were logging in as root.

Linux_n00b_57 06-30-2005 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Charred
Gnome probably didn't load correctly because you were logging in as root.
Why would root cause a problem? i would've thought if anything it would help...

Charred 07-01-2005 05:47 PM

I believe it has something to do with maintaining security, along the lines of logging in as a user and going "su" as necessary, but I'm not entirely sure about the "whys" and "wherefores." I expect it's something that will become more apparent as we learn more about Linux; perhaps some research in the Slackware forum archives, and maybe even a Google or two, should be in our immediate future?:study:

Oh, BTW, perfect_circle is absolutely correct: Gnome is deprecated; install the Fluxbox and/or ICEwm packages with pkgtool, type "xwmconfig" at the prompt and your wish will be granted; and this is something we should be discussing in the Slackware forum. Remember, being newbies does not limit us to the Newbie forum!:D

Smilies are silly.

Rik

perfect_circle 07-01-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linux_n00b_57
Why would root cause a problem? i would've thought if anything it would help...
Gnome was not updated since slackware 10 and probably it was not tested either. The only reasonfor keeping gnome in slackware 10.1 was that slackware 10.1 was an update release and in the .1 releases no major changes are introduced. In slackware current gnome and netscape are removed and firefox is inserted. If you like gnome, there are many projects for porting gnome into slackware. This is from the slackware current changelog:

Quote:

gnome/*: Removed from -current, and turned over to community support and
distribution. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons behind this, but it's
been under consideration for more than four years. There are already good
projects in place to provide Slackware GNOME for those who want it, and
these are more complete than what Slackware has shipped in the past. So, if
you're looking for GNOME for Slackware -current, I would recommend looking at
these two projects for well-built packages that follow a policy of minimal
interference with the base Slackware system:

http://gsb.sf.net
http://gware.sf.net

There is also Dropline, of course, which is quite popular. However, due to
their policy of adding PAM and replacing large system packages (like the
entire X11 system) with their own versions, I can't give quite the same sort
of nod to Dropline. Nevertheless, it remains another choice, and it's _your_
system, so I will also mention their project:

http://www.dropline.net/gnome/

Please do not incorrectly interpret any of this as a slight against GNOME
itself, which (although it does usually need to be fixed and polished beyond
the way it ships from upstream more so than, say, KDE or XFce) is a decent
desktop choice. So are a lot of others, but Slackware does not need to ship
every choice. GNOME is and always has been a moving target (even the
"stable" releases usually aren't quite ready yet) that really does demand a
team to keep up on all the changes (many of which are not always well
documented). I fully expect that this move will improve the quality of both
Slackware itself, and the quality (and quantity) of the GNOME options
available for it.

Folks, this is how open source is supposed to work. Enjoy. :-)
Anyway this is discussed a lot in the past 4 months in this forum. Use the search option of LinuxQuestions.org and you'll find many related threads.

P.S. Should I report the thread to a moderator to move it to slackware or is this a dead thread?

Michael Johnson 07-02-2005 02:56 AM

If you normally login as root then this a very bad thing it creates a high level security risk in your system. This is the normal way that Microstuffed Windoze works and is the same reason why it so vunerable to viruses, trojans, spyware and other nasties. For your own safety and peace of mind please ensure that you create a normal user account and only ever log into your system with this account. Basically this gives you read access to your system files BUT not write access. The write access is what gives those nasties a hold in your system. If you need to use root privileges then open a terminal and use the "su" command to become root and then perform your operations and "exit".
Happy Linux computing.

Haiyadragon 07-02-2005 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by perfect_circle
In slackware current gnome and netscape are removed and firefox is inserted.
I hope you mean Mozilla. Netscape has been a piece of **** for a while now. And I thought Mozilla was put back?

I'd just like to say that I'm running Gnome 2.8.3 on Slack 10.1 very happily now. There are a number of projects that build Gnome slackpacks (Dropline, Gnome.SlackBuild and more), but this was the only true vanilla flavour I could find :p

edit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Michael Johnson
Microstuffed Windoze
Nice one! And couldn't agree with you more (on the it's bad to be root thing).


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