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antonio-carioca 04-03-2012 01:13 PM

Installing Virtualbox or VM-Ware in Dual Boot Laptop w/ XP & Slackware
 
I currently use an HP6910p w/ XP and Slackware64. It runs great, but lately I've been curious as to the possibility of installing Virtualbox, or VM-Ware so I am able to start Slack in virtual mode. Is it possible to install Virtualbox, (after the fact), on a workstation working properly w/ dual-boot?

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 01:53 PM

I'm a bit uncertain what exactly it is you would like to do. Are you saying you would like to migrate your existing Slackware installation to a virtual machine inside Windows XP? If that's the case I'm not sure its possible because XP is not 64-bit capable. You would need to install a 32-bit version of Slackware in a virtual machine on XP and migrate any settings you want to keep, personal files, etc. Then you would have no need to dual boot. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

TobiSGD 04-03-2012 01:56 PM

Virtualbox is capable of running 64 bit guests on 32 bit hosts, at least on Linux (not sure about XP here), but as far as i know without hardware virtualization support, which really slow things down. Would be easier to run a XP VM on Slackware 64.

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 02:22 PM

TobiSGD is right. It would make more sense and be easier to get everything working properly if you were to run XP in a virtual machine in Slackware as opposed to the other way around. You could use dd to create a disk image of your XP partition and migrate it to the virtualization software of your choice. I did exactly the same thing with my Windows 7 partition. However, remember that XP is only licensed for one machine, be it virtual or physical, not both. Windows 7 allows for one of each. Just food for thought.

TobiSGD 04-03-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strungoutfan78 (Post 4643899)
However, remember that XP is only licensed for one machine, be it virtual or physical, not both. Windows 7 allows for one of each.

Beware those dangerous advices, this is simply not true. Here the excerpts from the EULA for Windows 7 that handle the number of copies per machine and virtualization technologies (emphasized by me):
Quote:

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.
a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the software on one computer. That
computer is the “licensed computer.”
Quote:

d. Use with Virtualization Technologies. Instead of using the software directly on the licensed
computer, you may install and use the software within only one virtual (or otherwise emulated)
hardware system on the licensed computer. When used in a virtualized environment, content
protected by digital rights management technology, BitLocker or any full volume disk drive
encryption technology may not be as secure as protected content not in a virtualized
environment. You should comply with all domestic and international laws that apply to such
protected content.
Microsoft licenses can be downloaded here in different languages: http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 03:39 PM

@TobiSGD

Thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps I should have been more specific. What you stated only applies to OEM versions. There is a section 2b in store-bought licenses that states:

b. Family Pack. If you are a "Qualified Family Pack User", you may install one copy of the software marked as "Family Pack" on three computers in your household for use by people who reside there. Those computers are the "licensed computers" and are subject to these license terms. If you do not know whether you are a Qualified Family Pack User, visit go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=141399 or contact the Microsoft affiliate serving your country

I interpret this as counting virtual installations as well. As it states, contact Microsoft if you are uncertain if you qualify.

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 03:40 PM

Ugh. Sorry about the messy formatting. I'm posting from the LQ app for Android. It seems a bit lacking in features still.

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 03:44 PM

@TobiSGD

Thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps I should have been more specific. What you stated only applies to OEM versions. There is a section 2b in store-bought licenses that states:

Quote:

b. Family Pack. If you are a "Qualified Family Pack User", you may install one copy of the software marked as "Family Pack" on three computers in your household for use by people who reside there. Those computers are the "licensed computers" and are subject to these license terms. If you do not know whether you are a Qualified Family Pack User, visit go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=141399 or contact the Microsoft affiliate serving your country
I interpret this as counting virtual installations as well. As it states, contact Microsoft if you are uncertain if you qualify.

TobiSGD 04-03-2012 04:01 PM

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What you stated only applies to OEM versions.
No, this applies to any OEM, Systembuilder and Retail version, except the Family Pack versions. If you want to have a Family Pack version you explicitly have to buy one, but I have never seen that anyone has done that (worked at different PC OEMs/retailers). So from my experience Family Pack versions are very uncommon.
So saying that
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Windows 7 allows for one of each.
is at least very misleading and if people believe that then they do illegal things if they don't have the Family Pack version (which is very unlikely).

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 04:09 PM

Correct. The section 3b you cited is in all of the EULA's, but the one I cited is specific to FPP licenses. Again, thank you for pointing this out. I do not wish to give misinformation.

strungoutfan78 04-03-2012 10:39 PM

Well, OP, I hope you were able to glean enough information from this conversation to understand that the point I was trying to make, however misguided, was if you migrate XP to a virtual machine you must delete your physical installation. That's all I was trying to say. Sorry for the tangent.

antonio-carioca 04-06-2012 12:46 PM

Thanks for the info & advise!
 
My thanks to the group for all of the information & advise on how I should proceed!

Cheers,

antonio

strungoutfan78 04-06-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4643869)
Virtualbox is capable of running 64 bit guests on 32 bit hosts, at least on Linux (not sure about XP here), but as far as i know without hardware virtualization support, which really slow things down. Would be easier to run a XP VM on Slackware 64.

BTW TobiSGD, I didn't realize that. I hardly ever break out Virtualbox anymore. Thanks.

OP - good luck to you. :hattip:


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