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Old 03-25-2005, 03:54 AM   #1
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installing software is impossible with linux...


Okay, I am sick of screwing with RPM's. They never "find" the software packages I am looking to install, which I download off websites. Will someone please kindly tell me how to install a "tarball" manually using ark? I think that would be much easier, and once I learn how to do it, then linux will actually become useful to me...

Edit: If I just decompress the files, and then add each file manually to a folder that I create under the program name, will that work?

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Old 03-25-2005, 04:09 AM   #2
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Actually if are a newbie and you are trying to install rpm's then you probably are doing alot more work than you need to. This thread deals with the some issues but most the the major distributions handle the dependency problem, etc. very well.

Read this think for some options -
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=305585
 
Old 03-25-2005, 04:52 PM   #3
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Originally posted by youngtom
Actually if are a newbie and you are trying to install rpm's then you probably are doing alot more work than you need to. This thread deals with the some issues but most the the major distributions handle the dependency problem, etc. very well.

Read this think for some options -
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=305585
Don't think I want to install SUSE. I want to be able to install software without hasseling on my mandrake system. I don't care if it takes "work" I just want it done. If I know how to do it, then I wont have to screw with programs like rpm's that never recognize any software I want to install. I recognize the software, so I am not interested in programs that don't. Maybe there is a tutorial on installing programs with ark? THAT would be helpful
 
Old 03-25-2005, 06:04 PM   #4
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I have found an answer as to how to install programs linux

for those of you who are having trouble installing programs like I was, I have found an answer to your concerns

I was having a lot of trouble with this issue:

I found out that one of the problems was that I needed to type: xhost +
as a shell script command line

then sign in as super user on the shell script

after that I would follow the instructions in the readme file of the installation packet.
an easy way to find this is going to the find files application on your kde bar and then searching all the files without putting the name of a file in the query box.

once you do this scroll down and find your file (for example netscape)

then double click on it and select the readme file.

after that just follow the step by step instructions of the vendor.

I hope this helps you guys.
 
Old 03-25-2005, 06:18 PM   #5
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Re: installing software is impossible with linux...

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Originally posted by M O L8ingN2dust
Okay, I am sick of screwing with RPM's. They never "find" the software packages I am looking to install, which I download off websites. Will someone please kindly tell me how to install a "tarball" manually using ark? I think that would be much easier, and once I learn how to do it, then linux will actually become useful to me...

Edit: If I just decompress the files, and then add each file manually to a folder that I create under the program name, will that work?
You have one small problem,Mandrake is a rpm based distro,if you want to install from source I would suggest a source based distro.
 
Old 03-25-2005, 11:45 PM   #6
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You have one small problem,Mandrake is a rpm based distro,if you want to install from source I would suggest a source based distro.
okay, then how am I supposed to install tar files? Those are what I am trying to install!
 
Old 03-26-2005, 12:27 AM   #7
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Being an rpm distro doesn't prevent anyone from installing from source. It makes things a little more difficult later on when you want to upgrade shared libraries if that library is used by RPMs and source-compiled programs.

Anyway, here's how you install a tarball (generally speaking):
Crack open a command-line/terminal/konsole/whatever

un-tar the file (typically: "tar xvzf <filename>" or "tar xvjf <filename>" : use the 'z' for gzip'ed tarballs and the 'j' for bzip2 tarballs)

cd into the directory it creates (crappy tarballs might not create a directory; extract it into a clean/empty dir if you want to be safe)

Read the README and INSTALL files (or their equivalents if present)

Read them again

Follow their instructions to compile the source code.
The default is to run these three commands (the last as root):
./configure
make
make install

If compilation fails, then that means you probably need to hunt down dependencies. Many programs use external libraries to accomplish tasks. Those libraries need to be present on your system, and accompanying "development" files. In other words, open your package manager in mandrake and look for any "-devel" or "development" packages associated with anything you already have installed. If those development packages aren't installed already, then install them now.
 
Old 03-26-2005, 04:42 AM   #8
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Mandrake has one of the biggest software repositories, so you may not need to compile software very often. Package management on Linux is easy. Firstly don't download rpms from third party websites, use the built in package managers that are provided by your distro and for Mandrake its urpmi. Most package managers automatically resolve dependencies, so with just a few commands, you can have your package and all its dependencies installed. As for compiling software on RPM based distros, it works fine, but you obviously need to understand how to resolve the dependencies (which usually just involves installing some development libraries/programs). One thing to note as mentioned by others is that if you compile anything from source, RPM won't know that that package exists on your system.
 
Old 03-26-2005, 06:07 AM   #9
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Here is museek;
http://rpm1.pbone.net/index.php3
here is gtkhtml;
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrak...6mdk.i586.html
 
Old 03-26-2005, 07:13 AM   #10
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well to stop posting a new thread for this.
i installed a rpm, i've installed from source (pengaol)

now how the hell do i run or find these?
that lil star menu on mandrake they don't show up there, i would love to know how to find/run custom install programs.

thanx
 
Old 05-25-2005, 02:19 AM   #11
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Re: installing software is impossible with linux...

Quote:
Originally posted by M O L8ingN2dust
Okay, I am sick of screwing with RPM's. They never "find" the software packages I am looking to install, which I download off websites. Will someone please kindly tell me how to install a "tarball" manually using ark? I think that would be much easier, and once I learn how to do it, then linux will actually become useful to me...

Edit: If I just decompress the files, and then add each file manually to a folder that I create under the program name, will that work?
Mandrakes RPMdrake is hopeless, if you want to install stuff you download use URPMI instead
copy and paste this into konsole as root
Quote:
urpmi.addmedia main ftp://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/Mand...586/media/main with media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/Mand.../media/contrib with media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia jpackage ftp://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/Mand...media/jpackage with media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/plf/mandrake/free/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf-nonfree ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/plf/m.../non-free/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/Mand.../main_updates/ with media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
now
Say you download Amsn-0.94i586.rpm do not double click it!!!

open a konsole switch to super user

su
(change to the place you downloaded Amsn-0.94i586.rpm)
cd /home/carl0ski/Desktop/downloads
urpmi Amsn-0.94i586.rpm
(urpmi will download and install all required pieces missing)
RPM drake fails to this often and even worse doesnt tell you what is missing

if god forbid anything is missing
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/2/simple/2
type in filename urpmi says is missing

(compiling from source isnt the solution your hoping for
it wont help much because you will still need to manually look for missing dependencies)
which you then must build also or it will plain not work when compiled
 
  


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