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rayyu 07-22-2012 01:44 AM

Installing programs WITHOUT command line?
 
Obviously a newbie here U^_^ I finally got around to installing Fedora on my laptop and now I wanna get some basic programs on it--torrent client, etc--but everything I've found seems to lead to going into the command line and typing something that doesn't seem to work for me D:
So I'm wondering if there's a way to install programs without the command line. I feel like I might be downloading all sorts of things that I don't need because of the instructions that I've been followng (a lot of which seem to involve a 200 mb download...).
I've never really been one to ask questions onlnie instead of research and dig around for a solution, but since I don't seem to be going anywhere by myself... U^_^
I kind of miss how I could just double-click the windows installers and they'd install without a fuss, but I love everything else about linux and am willing to work with it so...help?
And I apologize for what might be a very silly question.
Thanks :)

towheedm 07-22-2012 01:54 AM

Use the GUI package manager, Add/Remove Software. It in Applications > System Tools > Add/Remove Software.

rayyu 07-22-2012 02:03 AM

Does that come with Fedora already? Because I've been digging through the menus for quite a while, and there isn't a path like that.

---------- Post added 07-22-12 at 03:04 PM ----------

If it makes any difference, I'm using the lxde desktop.

vitalstrike82 07-22-2012 02:04 AM

Hi Rayyu,
good day. dun worry, i dun think its a stupid question. For fedora, you can try downloading installers with rpm extension.
1: If you have the correct libraries/dependencies in fedora, installing will be a breeze by using clicking on the rpm file, entering the root password and let it run.
2: Next you can use the yum installer on the terminal via command line input. Eg: on terminal type yum install ### where ### is the name of the package you like to install. The installation will kicks in automatically and you need internet connection.

Some websites you can check for more information:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/..._Software.html
http://ask.fedoraproject.org/questio...ftware-offline
http://www.zealfortechnology.com/201...tallation.html

John VV 07-22-2012 02:27 AM

You might want to LEARN how to use the terminal

fedora dose have a very rudimentary basic GUI for installing things
but it is junk

"yum" is your Friend

have a read through Mjmwired's guide page for fedora 17
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
and DangerMouse's "autoten" page
http://dnmouse.org/autoten/index.php...-autoplus.html

Quote:

but everything I've found seems to lead to going into the command line and typing something that doesn't seem to work for me
that is because it is VERY simple to post the instructions for "yum"
most are one line long
VS two to three PAGES of typing for explaining how to do it in
GNOME3
or
KDE4
or
any of the other half dozen desktop managers

Quote:

I feel like I might be downloading all sorts of things that I don't need because of the instructions that I've been followng (a lot of which seem to involve a 200 mb download...).
Almost ALL software has prerequisites that MUST be installed for the program to work

"yum" is a package manager THAT solves the dependence issues and keeps track of just WHAT is installed

you might want to do a bit of research on not just fedora ( fedora is a VERY special case of linux distro) but on Linux in general
"(Linux is Not Windows)"
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
and the wiki for fedora
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki
the FAQ
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ

And from personal use of fedora
If you DO NOT want to "get your hands dirty, and covered in grease"( Auto mechanic ) and use a terminal then fedora is most likely
a VERY poor choice for a Operating System for you .

Fedora is a research and Development OS and as such is VERY often in need of fixing BY YOU .
Hacking software to get it to run on fedora.
Hacking the Operating System to well- get it to work sometimes

So unless YOU WANT TO LEARN how a computer Operating System WORKS from the inside out,
dig into it's innards and get "messy" .
Then you probably should not be using fedora .

Ubuntu 12 long life or Mint12 might better a better choice .

kindofabuzz 07-22-2012 02:40 AM

Yeah take the time to learn how to install packages from command line. Once you learn it, it's so much faster to do than the gui way.

rayyu 07-22-2012 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4734958)
You might want to LEARN how to use the terminal

I intend to, when I have some free time on my hands :) The reason I asked was because I just wanted to get some basic programs running quickly so I can move on to the other stuff for now.

Quote:

fedora dose have a very rudimentary basic GUI for installing things
but it is junk

"yum" is your Friend

have a read through Mjmwired's guide page for fedora 17
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
and DangerMouse's "autoten" page
http://dnmouse.org/autoten/index.php...-autoplus.html
Thanks! I'll check those out.

Quote:


Almost ALL software has prerequisites that MUST be installed for the program to work

"yum" is a package manager THAT solves the dependence issues and keeps track of just WHAT is installed

you might want to do a bit of research on not just fedora ( fedora is a VERY special case of linux distro) but on Linux in general
"(Linux is Not Windows)"
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
and the wiki for fedora
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki
the FAQ
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ
Haha, I've spent the past day or so doing just that :) It's a lot of info, so it takes me a while to get the hang of it.

Quote:

And from personal use of fedora
If you DO NOT want to "get your hands dirty, and covered in grease"( Auto mechanic ) and use a terminal then fedora is most likely
a VERY poor choice for a Operating System for you .

Fedora is a research and Development OS and as such is VERY often in need of fixing BY YOU .
Hacking software to get it to run on fedora.
Hacking the Operating System to well- get it to work sometimes

So unless YOU WANT TO LEARN how a computer Operating System WORKS from the inside out,
dig into it's innards and get "messy" .
Then you probably should not be using fedora .
That's exactly why I chose Fedora! XD I like getting my hands dirty and learning things.

Like I said, I usually search for the answers or fiddle around rather than ask. And I'd probably still be searching and fiddling if I didn't have homework to do U^_^

Quote:

Ubuntu 12 long life or Mint12 might better a better choice .
No way...I don't really like the look of those XD The only other one I tested briefly was arch before settling on this one~

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitalstrike82 (Post 4734948)
Hi Rayyu,
good day. dun worry, i dun think its a stupid question. For fedora, you can try downloading installers with rpm extension.
1: If you have the correct libraries/dependencies in fedora, installing will be a breeze by using clicking on the rpm file, entering the root password and let it run.
2: Next you can use the yum installer on the terminal via command line input. Eg: on terminal type yum install ### where ### is the name of the package you like to install. The installation will kicks in automatically and you need internet connection.

Some websites you can check for more information:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/..._Software.html
http://ask.fedoraproject.org/questio...ftware-offline
http://www.zealfortechnology.com/201...tallation.html

THANK YOU! :D For some reason I've only stumbled upon the first link before but not the other two. This seems like the info I've been looking for, thanks!

rayyu 07-22-2012 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kindofabuzz (Post 4734968)
Yeah take the time to learn how to install packages from command line. Once you learn it, it's so much faster to do than the gui way.

Wow, I always though doing it with a GUI of some sort was always faster than command prompt.
That's probably true for windows~

pixellany 07-22-2012 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayyu (Post 4734985)
Wow, I always though doing it with a GUI of some sort was always faster than command prompt.
That's probably true for windows~

The fastest tool is often just the one you are most familiar with. But--at least in Linux / Unix, there are certain kinds of things that I don't even know how to do in the GUI. Simple example: Assume I want to move all the jpeg files from directory A to B:
(in directory A):
Code:

mv *jpg *JPG B
This is so easy in the CLI, that I've never bothered to learn any other method.

Also, once you know some of the *nix power tools like SED, AWK, etc. --- I doubt if you'll ever find GUI tools that will do the same things

In Arch Linux, there is no GUI package manager. Suppose I want to install a utility "openldap":
Code:

pacman -S openldap
I can just about type that faster that I can even OPEN a GUI package manager.

Bottom line---use whatever works best for you

TroN-0074 07-22-2012 08:06 AM

What are the programs you want to install? Chances are there is already something installed in your computer that does the same thing! For torrents there is already a torrent program in Fedora.
If you have the Gnome desktop there is Transmission torrent already in your system, Trasmission is very simple, fast and clean torrent client.

Good luck to you


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