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Old 04-25-2009, 11:49 AM   #1
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Installing Mandriva over fedora


Hi! I have installed fedora, but it doesn't work right and after a week of trying to fix it, I've decided to get rid of it. Don't ask about the problems---that is in another discussion---I just want to get rid of it. I decided on Mandriva, and have downloaded the KDE version. I'm currently triple booting with xp, fedora, and server 2003. I had no problems setting this up, just freed up space in the xp partition for the fedora install. My question is, can I just install Mandriva, and will it delete the fedora install. Also, will Mandriva's boot loader delete or overwrite the current fedora one? Should I use partition magic to delete the fedora partition first,(I don't know if that will work yet as I haven't tried it), and if I do, and it works , will there be a problem with fedora's boot loader or with Mandriva's boot loader, or any problem with boot loaders? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-25-2009, 12:36 PM   #2
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can I just install Mandriva, and will it delete the fedora install.
There is a disk tool that is graphical. What ever partition you install to, format it first, then install. You do not want residual files left around.

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Should I use partition magic to delete the fedora partition first,(I don't know if that will work yet as I haven't tried it
Not necessary, as I mentioned above, there is a gui disk tool in the installer. Use it where necessary. Formatting is enough, unless you decide the partitions are the wrong size. PM will work just fine. I have used it.

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will there be a problem with fedora's boot loader or with Mandriva's boot loader,
Mandy will ask you if you want to install grub, or just update what is there. Grub is not part of any particular distro. It should find the other installed systems, and add the necessary stuff to give a boot Mandriva option. I will say this can be tricky, so be careful. I would suggest you make a copy of /etc/grub/menu.lst before you begin. Then if it gets borked, or one system won't boot, you have a reference to look at to add the lines to get the other systems back.

I don't multi-boot any more, been a while since I had to mess with grub. Mandy just got it right the first time for me.

If for some reason the /etc/grub/menu.lst file is not correct after you install, you can boot with the install CD ( or DVD ) and edit the file to fix any problems.

The other thing I would add, make sure you understand the linux way of naming drives and partitions before you begin. hda, sda hdb1 etc. You should be able to install mandy to the same / partition fedora was on. As for the old home partition, ( I'm assuming you had more than one big partition ) you do not have to format it. That is a matter of choice.

Last edited by camorri; 04-25-2009 at 01:06 PM. Reason: added some more info.
 
Old 04-25-2009, 12:58 PM   #3
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Don't ask about the problems-
OK, but: Beware of the common Linux disease---"distro-hopping_to_solve_problems_itis". I had a major case and am currently in recovery. There is no cure---if you catch it, you can only wait for it to run its course.
 
Old 04-25-2009, 01:15 PM   #4
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Beware of the common Linux disease---"distro-hopping_to_solve_problems_itis". I had a major case and am currently in recovery. There is no cure---if you catch it, you can only wait for it to run its course.
This also happened to me. However, all my problems (sound, wlan, some devices) had gone since I have compiled kernel to suit my hardware.

As for new installation, I like my target partition blank. Just like when I removed my Fedora's LVM to install another Fedora.

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Old 04-26-2009, 01:32 PM   #5
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Mandriva

Thanks for the responses. I used partition magic to delete the partition, then put the cd into the drive and rebooted, Mandriva installed flawlessly. I noticed that the firefox page was miniscule and was looking around to find out how to change the desktop settings, then tried a Mandriva tutorial. It's sadly lacking. It assumes you already know linux---then use the drake whatever and you can change... First you have to find the drake whatever, then it really doesn't tell you what to do then. I ran the mouse over the task bar to see what was there, and there was a button for updates. Aha! After the updates were applied then the drake whatevers appeared. It installed the correct nvidia driver, so I changed the screen resolution, and , voila, firefox was readable. Somebody should write a tutorial for the majority of people who aren't computer savvy, not just for this linux distro, but all distros. Something that says, now you've installed, time to get the updates by clicking on this icon, and show the screen shot. Then you'd get a lot of new linux users. Most people don't do much with their computers but use the internet, e-mail, maybe write in word, and play games. If they can do this easily on linux, which a basic setup does, then they'd deepsix windows to their benefit. I'm assuming new installs of programs can just be downloaded and installed by double-clicking them. OK, the editorial is over. Thanks again
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:12 PM   #6
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I'm assuming new installs of programs can just be downloaded and installed by double-clicking them.
No, this is not correct. To install software using Mandy, you need to set up the repos first. This is not a difficult task. It is done with 'easy urpmi'. Here is the link.

http://mandrivausers.org/easyurpmi/index.php

Once the repos are set up, then you start up MCC ( Mandriva Control Center ) there is an icon for it, or you can start it by typing mcc on a command line. You will be prompted for the root password, then click on Software Management. There are icons for 'Update Your System', and 'Install Remove software'

To install a program, click Install Remove Software. After a few seconds you will get a panel. Type the name, or part of the name in the location bar, it will search, and list programs both installed and ones you can install. Check the box for a program you want to install, click apply. The rest is done by the system.

Post back if you need more direction.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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OK, but: Beware of the common Linux disease---"distro-hopping_to_solve_problems_itis". I had a major case and am currently in recovery. There is no cure---if you catch it, you can only wait for it to run its course.
100% Agreed

I find that if you "make it work" and "struggle forever to make it work" you learn A LOT more and are better off...



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