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Old 06-15-2015, 03:37 PM   #1
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Installing Kali by Windows using UnetBoot


I don't have a CD/DVD romm drive working and I don't have a USB memory card. I read up on it and it said to use UnetBoot ...

I have tried to install it multiple times with The 64bit version, 32 bt version, and the 64 bit lite version. I keep getting error messages no matter what I do.

I had them written down and pasted in my browser but I lost the error messages. I could try again and post the error messages if I need to.


Eventually it got to the point where when I restarted to finish the install it just went straght to Windows instead of taking me to finish the Kali install before Windows booted.

Is there any other way to install Kali using another program besides UnetBoot ?

I am trying to install it as a seperate OS so I can operate my WifiCard instead of it being attached to the host.

Oh I also disabled the secure boot

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Old 06-15-2015, 03:49 PM   #2
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I don't understand what you are saying. If you don't have a CD/DVD drive and you don't have a USB stick then how are you trying to install Kali? If you have some other way than that it might be worth including a link to the instructions you are following.

Edit: To add to this Kali isn't usually a distribution that is installed in the usual sense as it is a security-testing distribution and is usually used "live" by more experienced Linux users.

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Old 06-15-2015, 03:54 PM   #3
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I don't understand what you are saying. If you don't have a CD/DVD drive and you don't have a USB stick then how are you trying to install Kali? If you have some other way than that it might be worth including a link to the instructions you are following.

Edit: To add to this Kali isn't usually a distribution that is installed in the usual sense as it is a security-testing distribution and is usually used "live" by more experienced Linux users.
Here is what I am trying to do - https://forums.kali.org/showthread.p...emovable-media

I understand it isn't a OS for day to day use. The main reason I want it to be bootable in a separate partition is so it recognizes my internal wifi card. Right now the card is not recognized when I use a VM because the host takes it over. By using a separate partition the wifi adapter would be available for Reaver.
 
Old 06-15-2015, 04:23 PM   #4
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Kali recommend installing to a USB stick (with or without persistence) and running it from that.

http://docs.kali.org/downloading/kal...ve-usb-install
 
Old 06-15-2015, 04:33 PM   #5
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Kali recommend installing to a USB stick (with or without persistence) and running it from that.

http://docs.kali.org/downloading/kal...ve-usb-install
Guess it's the stubborness in me trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

There has to be a way though. I hate giving up lol
 
Old 06-15-2015, 04:42 PM   #6
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What you are trying to do is what is referred to as a frugal install. This basically puts the LiveCD on a partition on your hard drive. It will act the same way a Live CD does, read-only filesystem to which you can make no changes but you can boot it and use it to install. The link below is considerably more detailed than the link you posted. It is specific to Ubuntu so just replace Kali wherever you see Ubuntu in the instructions. I use a similar method to boot and install various Linux distributions so I don't need to use CD/DVD/flash drives. I always boot with Grub so I'm not sure how this would work if all you have to boot from is windows. Probably need EasyBCD.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1801434
 
Old 06-15-2015, 05:04 PM   #7
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i take it you did not read this section of the Kali docs
" Should I Use Kali Linux? "
http://docs.kali.org/introduction/sh...use-kali-linux

see point #2
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Network services disabled by default: Kali Linux contains sysvinit hooks which disable network services by default. These hooks allow us to install various services on Kali Linux, while ensuring that our distribution remains secure by default, no matter what packages are installed. Additional services such as Bluetooth are also blacklisted by default.
your wi-fi card will NOT work by default

it is disabled

you will have to turn it on
-- have fun

and please READ a bit farther down on tha tpage
the section called
"Is Kali Linux Right For You?"
the first 2 paragraphs
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As the distributions developers, you might expect us to recommend that everyone should be using Kali Linux. The fact of the matter is, however, that Kali is a Linux distribution specifically geared towards professional penetration testers and security specialists, and given its unique nature, it is NOT a recommended distribution if youre unfamiliar with Linux or are looking for a general-purpose Linux desktop distribution for development, web design, gaming, etc.

Even for experienced Linux users, Kali can pose some challenges. Although Kali is an open source project, its not a wide-open source project, for reasons of security. The development team is small and trusted, packages in the repositories are signed both by the individual committer and the team, and importantly the set of upstream repositories from which updates and new packages are drawn is very small. Adding repositories to your software sources which have not been tested by the Kali Linux development team is a good way to cause problems on your system.

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Old 06-15-2015, 05:45 PM   #8
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I understand the wireless card will not work by default. I planned on installing the drivers per a few different thread's instructions. I have also read how to download and install the drivers I found. So I understand I have to manually enable it. I understand how to handle this part now from mistakes I have made the last few days. That being said, I can't even manually add it if I am running it as a client the connection is passed through from the host.

In order to manually add the wifi card I have to have Kali booting from a partition instead of a VM. There are MANY threads where people have got external wifi adapters working through VM, as well as included directions and guides, with external Wifi USB adapters using VM's but the USB WiFi I bought wouldn't work as V1 was supported but I bought the V3. Therefore I am trying to use my internal card by a standalone installation. This will alleviate the host trying up the wifi connection.

As far as Kali not being recommended for beginners, I understand that as well. I also believe the best way to learn anything is to throw yourself into the toughest projects and spend a lot of time googling questions and asking them on forums even if I sound stupid. Which is why I am posting this in the newbie section

I appreciate everyone who has taken the time to reply here especially yancek !
 
Old 06-16-2015, 11:45 AM   #9
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Here is what I am trying to do - https://forums.kali.org/showthread.p...emovable-media

I understand it isn't a OS for day to day use. The main reason I want it to be bootable in a separate partition is so it recognizes my internal wifi card. Right now the card is not recognized when I use a VM because the host takes it over. By using a separate partition the wifi adapter would be available for Reaver.
Ah, my apologies, Unetbootin has come a way since I last used it so I was unaware of the "frugal install".
I hope you backed up your Windows install before doing that though as it sounds like it is not without risk.
 
  


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