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Old 06-14-2005, 06:01 AM   #1
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Installing Games


My friend found an article detailing how m$ keep their monopoly and decided that everything made by them on his computer was going. Not willing to buy a Mac, Linux was the choice with my Fedora Core 3 CD's shortly making their way to his house.

He was initially impressed by Fedora with it's looks and user-friendliness of day-to-day goings, however he wasn't quite as impressed when Mozilla only connects to a few sites (nVidia being one). After sending a few hours trying to sort this problem he decided he wanted GTA San Andreas installed.

First and foremost, I couldn't get the nVidia drivers to install so some guidance on that would be greatly appreciated.

Secondly, which is the main topic of the question, how do I actually install games on Fedora? I've done a quick Google search (I'm low on time right now) but I haven't found any way to actually start the install process. Any attempt at running a Windows executable (such as the installer) comes up with "Can't display media".

I am using FC3 with a Desktop install (GNOME). Some links or a walkthrough of the process would be fantastic.
 
Old 06-14-2005, 06:12 AM   #2
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Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), Windows executables do not work out of the box.

GTA San Andreas can be made to work on Linux, however it's not quite as easy as double-clicking a simple installer like in Windows.

GTA San Andreas uses DirectX, a microsoft API (now you can see how M$ monopolised the gaming industry too -- by releasing a gaming API playable on Windows only). There's a cross-platform open-source fully documented API called OpenGL which Linux primarily uses (besides Mesa) for 3D Rendering. To put it short, there's no native support for DirectX games under Linux.

Then, the guys at WineHQ came along (http://www.winehq.com). They had a clever idea to make DirectX games and Windows Applications workable under Linux. Yes, it would be buggy, yes it wouldn't quite match the Windows performance. But in most cases, it comes pretty damn close. There's also Cedega at Transgaming, however this is not free, and in many cases Winex does the job just fine. So yes, GTA San Andreas is playable under Linux; I myself have gotten GTA Vice City to work under Linux and it works (nearly but close enough) like a charm.

Hope this helps.

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Old 06-14-2005, 06:17 AM   #3
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Heh I have had some (limited) experience of installing things with Linux and I would have died of shock if it had installed using the .exe :P No chance I was expecting it too.

So would I have to download WineX and then use that to install the game?
 
Old 06-14-2005, 06:26 AM   #4
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You can use WineX, yes.

After writing my last post, I found that cedega can be downloaded for free by CVS, and that the pre-built binaries require a monthly membership. Follow the instructions here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...p?articleid=45 to get cedega CVS working under Linux.

In my opinion (correct me someone if I'm wrong) WINE concentrates more on getting Windows APPS to work, while Cedega concentrates more on DirectX gaming. In which case, cedega might be a better option. However, you don't need the optimised binaries and the $5 monthly membership -- just download Cedega via CVS as stated above and you should be fine.

Note, if the game uses Windows Installer, you'll need to download Windows Installer from Microsoft's website. Again, all the details are there on the link above.

 
Old 06-14-2005, 06:37 AM   #5
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Thank you, I will try it out later when I have more time.

(Just had a quick glance at it and it looks perfect. *thumbs up*)
 
Old 06-14-2005, 10:33 AM   #6
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Thank you, I will try it out later when I have more time.

(Just had a quick glance at it and it looks perfect. *thumbs up*)
NEITHER WINEX or CEDEGA RUN GTA:SA YET! All the other GTA's work, but not SA at the moment, you can install, but it wont run. Even windows is having a lot of trouble with installing it (my friend still runs Windows for gaming, and he cannot get SA to install correctly). I think that the team at transgaming is working on a fix, but I say, go Cedega, pay them $5 for 3 months, then cancel service (if you don't want updates, or being able to vote on what the team does next (I voted BF2 this round of votes). Maybe some wierd person with too much time on their hands made GTA SA work with Linux (WineX, Cedega, whatever), but I need photoographic (or screenshot) proof that GTA SA runs on Linux.
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:13 AM   #7
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Well my friend decided that he is willing to dual boot Windows 2000 & Fedora (he's now going to use Core 4) and basically just use whatever games he can using Fedora and any other games (that don't run on Linux) he will brave Windows to play.

I will be doing likewise as he doesn't have as much experience with the technical side of computers and having to sort out similiar problems on my computer will help me solve his (which is good because he expects me to know it all!)

Thanks for the help and information
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:25 AM   #8
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Xyem, that's what I was about to suggest also. Dual-boot with another nix os (such as Windows). Save the hassle and let other hardcore developers get this game working in Linux

--Abid Kazmi
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:33 AM   #9
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Re: Installing Games

Quote:
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He was initially impressed by Fedora with it's looks and user-friendliness of day-to-day goings, however he wasn't quite as impressed when Mozilla only connects to a few sites (nVidia being one). After sending a few hours trying to sort this problem he decided he wanted GTA San Andreas installed.

First and foremost, I couldn't get the nVidia drivers to install so some guidance on that would be greatly appreciated.[/B]
When I used Fedora the most recent versions of the Nvidia driver never worked, but Version: 1.0-6111 always worked fine without fail so you could give that a try
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:34 AM   #10
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When I used Fedora the most recent versions of the Nvidia driver never worked, but Version: 1.0-6111 always worked fine without fail so you could give that a try
mine work fine for openGL (core 3). Im working on Cedega 3D acceleration (HL1 CS 1.6 run fine, but not CSS and HL2, working on that).
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:44 AM   #11
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First and foremost, I couldn't get the nVidia drivers to install so some guidance on that would be greatly appreciated.
I didn't quite explain what I meant. What happened was I downloaded the drivers, when I tried to install them (using terminal through GNOME) it says I have X running. I think I understand what this means (basically GUI is running and installing drivers during this isn't going to work... or something along those lines) but I can't find out how to get to the CLI (runlevel 3 I believe).

And dual-booting is a bit of a blow because he went very anti-m$ and didn't want Windows on it at all. Now he hates them even more (for monopolising games industry and making them hard to run on Linux). Oh well...
 
Old 06-14-2005, 11:50 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Xyem
I didn't quite explain what I meant. What happened was I downloaded the drivers, when I tried to install them (using terminal through GNOME) it says I have X running. I think I understand what this means (basically GUI is running and installing drivers during this isn't going to work... or something along those lines) but I can't find out how to get to the CLI (runlevel 3 I believe).

And dual-booting is a bit of a blow because he went very anti-m$ and didn't want Windows on it at all. Now he hates them even more (for monopolising games industry and making them hard to run on Linux). Oh well...
here we go, nvidia driver install

hit ctrl-alt-f2

next, log in (i think)

type : telinit 3

(that kills X server essencially)

make sure you are root

type i think : sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7664-pkg1.run

run install

at end of install type : telinit 5

(brings back X server)

log in

go to /etc/x11 (graphically) (i am pretty sure)

open xorg.conf (if it is xf86.conf i cannot help you)

look for the line : driver : nv

replace nv with nvidia

save

reboot computer

hope this helped


there should be a nvidia splash screen right before login screen.

if not sorry, i cannot help you.
 
Old 06-14-2005, 01:54 PM   #13
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Lots of "I think"'s in there but your instructions are fine. =) Not sure about replacing nv with nvidia. Did you get this information from a readme or something of that sort. If so, please post a link. Thanks.

--Abid Kazmi
 
Old 06-14-2005, 02:03 PM   #14
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Lots of "I think"'s in there but your instructions are fine. =) Not sure about replacing nv with nvidia. Did you get this information from a readme or something of that sort. If so, please post a link. Thanks.

--Abid Kazmi
no readme, this is how i figured out how to install, and i just updated kernel and reinstalled drivers, they work. Do change nv to nvidia, if you want to use your graphics card in any way.
 
Old 06-14-2005, 02:05 PM   #15
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Will do.

I was just thinking, maybe I should make like a diary or something similiar with screenshots (photos in places) of setting it up to help other new people? Just wondering if such a thing would be useful...
 
  


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