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Old 04-05-2013, 05:23 AM   #1
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Question Installing bootloader error


Hi all,

I wanted to install a Fedora 18 on my PC which installed window XP already ; I'm getting "Installing bootloader error" when i installing F18 , i tried to use "grub4dos" to install the F18 , but failed , someone can guide me how can i use "grub4dos" to install F18?
Thank you.

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Old 04-05-2013, 02:08 PM   #2
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can this old XP computer even use fedora 18 ?
At a minimum 1 gig ram( 2 to 8 gigs is better) and a i5 CPU really are needed for Gnome3 desktop to work

Are you trying to "dual boot " fedora 18 and XP service pack 3
or
just replacing XP with fedora ?

for dual booting
Did you make room on the drive for fedora ?
 
Old 04-06-2013, 06:57 AM   #3
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Hi John,

I would like to installing F18 for dual booting , my PC installed XP with SP3 on (hd0,0);

Now i wanted to install a F18 on (hd0,1) ,

Actually , my PC running intel Premium D dual core with 4 GB ram.

I downloaded a live F18 ISO , i can run it as live , but failed to install on HDD.

Do you have any idea? Thanks.

Brgds/Brandon Chau
 
Old 04-06-2013, 07:17 AM   #4
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Hi

Is there an option in the menu to install to HD, if not there should of been an option as you boot the cd/dvd to install
 
Old 04-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #5
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Strange how someone would associate XP with "old"... i'm still running XP from time to time and i really don't see any reason to ever upgrade Windows again..
 
Old 04-06-2013, 02:24 PM   #6
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Quote:
Strange how someone would associate XP with "old"
the COMPUTER is what can be old

as i post this i am on a VERY old computer that came with xp -- NO service pack from 2001
( SL6.3 is installed currently)
and i have seen a bit of older "preinstalled " Win98 upgraded ot XP computers

some are now door stops
but most can still be used for some things

----------- back to the OP ----------
Pentium D ( 64 bit chip )and 4 gig ram
the fedora 18 CD ?
and not DVD ?
Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso -- this one ?
and not this one
Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso

though on the D cpu you might want to use the 32 bit Fedora


Fedora made some very big changes in 18
and one was the installer

you relay do want to use the DVD "Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso" or the 32 bit "Fedora-18-i386-DVD.iso "
 
Old 04-06-2013, 03:30 PM   #7
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Yeah alright, originally shipped with Win98 then upgraded to XP, that's a different story. But successfully running XP means successfully running any Linux also, maybe except Gentoo if the machine is really old because it's just annoying to wait for hours to have one big package compiled and installed. Anyhow, nevermind...
 
Old 04-07-2013, 09:50 PM   #8
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Hi all,

I downloaded this "Fedora-18-i686-Live-Desktop.iso" (GNOME) from

"http://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/fedora-18-download-cd-dvd-iso/" ;

Actually , my question is

how to fix "Installing bootloader error" and make F18 & winXP for dual booting"?

i must need to use the tool "grub4dos" to install F18 to make my PC dual booting? Having the other

way to make dual booting?

Because i downloaded and unzip "grub4dos" , and then followed the steps of guideline, but i stll

can't install F18, and it make me confusing.

Thanks/Brandon Chau

Last edited by branddonchau; 04-07-2013 at 09:54 PM.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:07 PM   #9
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You may have to check in Bios to see if you have Data Execution bit enabled/disabled.
My Acer Aspire has it to stop from righting to MBR. I'll reboot & check exactly what mine says but it's different on other computers.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:25 PM   #10
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Hi EDDY,

Do you meaning BIOS \ Advanced \ CPU configuration \ "Disable Execution bit"?

Default is "Enable" , i need to switch to "disable" now?

Thanks/Brandon Chau
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:26 PM   #11
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Thats it good luck.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:41 PM   #12
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on xp there is no need for "grub4dos"
the windowsxp bootloader will gladly chainload to grub

use any of the 10+ year old guides on the net that use the "dd" command
http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php
and any linux distro will not auto mount the windows c drive so there is no need to use a 3.5 in floppy

use the install dvd to boot into fedora 18

just add the "linux.bin" file made with dd to the windows c:/boot.ini
as you would for any dual boot of xp with anything else


or just let fedora auto set it up
-- that is the default setting

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Old 04-07-2013, 11:48 PM   #13
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Why do you need GRUB4DOS instead of the default GRUB2? Is it to keep the Windows bootloader (in which case I would further ask why it's necessary to keep it when even GRUB Legacy is much more powerful)? Or did you already try GRUB2, which is why you're trying GRUB4DOS now?

It might be choking on FlexNet (or some other DRM rootkit that writes to the MBR) if this is a Windows dual-boot; FlexNet (installed with some programs like Adobe Reader, or even by default on Dell machines when restored from backup) stores data in one or more early sector(s) of a hard drive (usually sectors 32 and/or 33, from what I've seen) that GRUB2 will detect and avoid. I have a feeling that GRUB4DOS' installer might not be designed to handle FlexNet adequately.

Either way, if possible, try going back to a live environment after installation, and type the following in a terminal (I'm assuming your machine's hard drive is /dev/sda and that your root partition is /dev/sda2; else, replace those with the appropriate device names):

Code:
sudo su
mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
grub-install --root-partition=/mnt /dev/sda
If it complains about sector 32 (and/or 33) being in use by FlexNet, then that's probably why you're having trouble. Else, at least you'll (hopefully) have GRUB installed properly and will be able to at least boot.

EDIT: The Ubuntu forums have excellent documentation on the FlexNet issue here, including how to clear out those sectors using dd.

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Old 04-08-2013, 12:05 AM   #14
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Hi Eddy ,

I still getting the same error even i switch to disable.

Hi YellowApple,

Actually, i can't complete the F18 installation at this moment, i'm getting "Installing bootloader error" at the installation process , so i can't go to your mentioned step "try going back to a live environment after installation, and type the following in a terminal........"

Brgds/Brandon Chau
 
Old 04-08-2013, 12:20 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by branddonchau View Post
Hi YellowApple,

Actually, i can't complete the F18 installation at this moment, i'm getting "Installing bootloader error" at the installation process , so i can't go to your mentioned step "try going back to a live environment after installation, and type the following in a terminal........"

Brgds/Brandon Chau
With most Linux installers (Fedora included, I presume), installing the bootloader is one of the very last steps, so even if it fails, it should still be possible to boot the system with another bootloader (like SuperGrubDisk) anyway, since all the files will be present and most - if not all - of the configuration already complete. Thus, even after the failure message, you should still be able to follow my instructions (perhaps after a reboot if the installer won't let you go back to the live CD environment; I haven't installed Fedora in awhile, so YMMV).

At the very least, running those terminal commands will give at least *some* insight on where the bootloader installation is failing, whether or not FlexNet is causing it (as my suspicions tell me).
 
  


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