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Old 02-21-2006, 11:47 PM   #1
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Installing Ardour in Ubuntu


Hey, all. I have a couple of questions...

Firstly, is it possible to install (ardour.org) Ardour on Ubuntu? The reason I ask is because of the following statement from the website:
If you have not used Linux before, the Ubuntu and Debian distributions are not recommended if audio is your primary goal. These distributions work well for many non-audio oriented users, but they tend to cause many problems (particularly related to initial setup) for users aimed at using applications like ardour.

Should I not be using Ubuntu? Nearly everyone tells me it's the easiest of the free distros, but everything I do seems like pulling teeth, so to speak.

Now, if I can in fact install Ardour, I need to know how. I've tried updating my auto-installer to the multiverse, but Ardour does not appear in the list of applications. I did find (ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html#SECTION000324800000000000000) this page, but it includes a slurry of lingo I can't even begin to understand...

Ardour
Version 0.9beta29-1 [7.3|8.0|9|1] [jack]

``Ardour is a multichannel hard disk recorder (HDR) and digital audio workstation (DAW). It is capable of simultaneous recording 24 or more channels of 32 bit audio at 48kHz. Ardour is intended to function as a "professional" HDR system, replacing dedicated hardware solutions such as the Mackie HDR, the Tascam 2424 and more traditional tape systems like the Alesis ADAT series....''

Jack has to be running for Ardour to be of any use.

An introduction to basic editing operations can be found at the Quicktoots page here. Some more small tutorials can be found in the same site here.

ManPages: ardour

Rpms:

Caveat: these packages are not stand alone! They depend on and will need other packages that are also part of the Planet CCRMA repository. The best way to install all required packages is to install Planet CCRMA and use apt-get to install Ardour.

ardour-0.9beta29-1 [9 | fc1 | fc2 | fc3]
ardour-debuginfo-0.9beta29-1 [9 | [fc1 | [fc2 | [fc3]
ardour-0.9beta29-1 source [all]

ardour-beta11-2-0.9beta11.2-1 [9 | fc1 | fc2]
ardour-beta11-2-0.9beta11.2-1 source [all]


???

Any help would be much appreciated!
 
Old 02-22-2006, 07:44 AM   #2
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Of course you can install that on any version/distro of linux that meets the requirements. What their statements allude to is, it will be very hard in Ubuntu and Debian(probably because of the .deb package system) to get audio editting to work. I would guess this is due to the availability of .debs of the pre-reqs to install the software when they tried to install it themselves.

It does most likely mean it will be a pain to find repos with everything you need to get it running properly, but with the ever growing usage of Ubuntu I would doubt you can't find them. But it may take you awhile. Ardour itself was developed under Fedora, an RPM based distro, making it very easy for them to provide full support there.
 
Old 02-24-2006, 01:32 AM   #3
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okay, I've uninstalled Ubuntu and installed Fedora 4 in its place. Now what?
 
Old 02-24-2006, 09:00 AM   #4
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Umm, I never even suggested swapping distros, just suggested Ubuntu may be slightly more difficult to get dependencies pre-install... But, now you would install ardour, I would expect.

Anywho, go to somewhere like rpm.pbone.net and select advanced search, rpms by name for ardour, select only fedora core 4. Then check dependencies. If it works, you are good to go, if not, you have some downloading and installing to do.
 
Old 02-24-2006, 09:11 AM   #5
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As I recall, ardour is available in Ubuntus "Multiverse" Repository as well as a plethora of other audio manipulating apps.

#Edit:
I don't recall any Fedora repos that have ardour.... possibly the Dries or FreshRPMs repo?

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Old 02-26-2006, 12:05 AM   #6
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Ubuntu definitely did not have Ardour included in the multiverse repositories. As for Fedora, I can't even find where to update repositories.
 
Old 02-26-2006, 12:07 AM   #7
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I really don't understand Linux. With Windows, all I have to do is download one or more files, and double-click on setup.exe or install.exe. I wish it were that simple with Fedora/Ubuntu/etc.
 
Old 02-26-2006, 12:30 AM   #8
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It is. Mostly. With Ubuntu it is .deb files, and with Fedora it is .rpm files. These are called packages. They need a package manager to install. Ubuntu comes with a few, actually, but the point is, Windows has the Windows installer, winzip has an installer, it isn't as different as you think, because you are focus on the differences not the simularities.

For most programs, you can find places that release these, and other types for various linux distrobutions easily, but you have to get to know a distro before hand. You can't just expect all of them to be the same and go to the same places for all the stuff from all of them. This is why there are multiple distros, chocies. For ease, you want to stick with Ubuntu, Mandriva, SuSE, and other basic easy to use distros. But you need to do some reading on the one you choose. Stick with Fedora for now, assuming you don't have any problems with it. Get used to how it works, and read about it. You need to read FAQs, guides, get used to it. You are in unfamiliar territory, and if you plan to work in Linux, you need to feel comfortable with it, and that means knowing more about it than you do now.

The problem comes with advanced things, same as with Windows, there are times you need other things first. For instance, almost all games you need to Directx 9.0c in Windows now, if you don't have it, you have to get it first. Video drivers, audio drivers, everything is similar, but it is a different implementation. You need to get used to it for being Linux. It isn't Windows, don't expect it to to do things the same way. It will do the same things, but not the same way.
 
Old 02-26-2006, 08:53 AM   #9
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So I need to find *.rpm files for Ardour, then, right? I see at least four such files on this site: ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html#SECTION000424900000000000000

Which is the installer?
 
Old 02-26-2006, 11:41 AM   #10
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http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrm...ccrma.i386.rpm

Looks to be the one you want, the others are source code which you compile and debugging information.

Bear in mind it says beta, and they only have FC3 and lower links, so you may run into problems with dependency versions.

Also says you need "jack" for it to be any good.
 
  


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