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Old 11-29-2007, 01:08 AM   #1
RotWayDown
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Installed World of warcraft, but extreme lag prevents gameplay


Alright guys, I figured id take a shot with my questions as well. I have a friend here who showed me Linux Mint and I installed it. It works really well, and since its based off Ubuntu, its not too different. After using slackware for a little while (was pretty hard to get used to), overtime I realized I needed to get away from windows.

I have wine, and I already installed WoW with it (after many questions to my friend and him walking me through it) but the problem is, once I run it, the resolution jumps down really low, I can't quite tell you because I don't know, but the lag is absolutely terrible. It must be around .5 frames per second for video and equivalent for sound.

I really really want to steer clear of windows entirely but sometimes the transition can be hard. I have updated graphics drivers and everything I can think of. Id like to do whatever I can to get this to work, but I am just too linux-illiterate to make it happen. Is there any suggestions I could do to get the FPS back up to tolerable gameplay?

Thanks to any help you guys could offer, this is my first day back on linux in at least a year... so my knowledge is extremely limited.

Last edited by RotWayDown; 11-29-2007 at 12:25 PM.
 
Old 11-29-2007, 01:40 AM   #2
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Hello and welcome.
You can check there: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...rsion&iId=9429
 
Old 11-29-2007, 09:26 AM   #3
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Thanks for the welcome
Alright, reading up on the section of Wines site you gave me. If I find anything that helps with my problem i'll let you know, thanks


Here are the screen shots.
This is at normal resolution before I execute the game:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67...Screenshot.png

And this is when it loads:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67...creenshot3.png

Doesn't look like there is a problem, but the FPS has lowered to around .2 fps. it takes a few seconds for the next frame to load, and in this image, the regular linux cursor is on the log in button, and the WoW one is above to the right.

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Old 11-29-2007, 10:45 AM   #4
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Alright, I read it, but unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. I think it might help to say that when I do load it, I can still see the regular linux mouse cursor icon on top of the WoW animated one. I'm sure its a setting conflict somewhere, but I just don't know where to start looking. I've messed around with wine and got it to run the virtual desktop (like I see in all the images of people running games) but I get the same results as if it was in full screen mode.
My computer specs are

AMD 3200+ 64
1 gb DDR ram
20 gb hdd (yeah I know.. my two 120gb's died)
ATI 9700 Se Pro 256 mb DDRram 400 mhz core clock
Soundblaster Live 5.1

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Old 11-30-2007, 12:05 AM   #5
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Do you use compiz/beryl?

Run in terminal:
Code:
glxinfo | grep direct
 
Old 11-30-2007, 10:04 AM   #6
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Quote:
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Do you use compiz/beryl?

Run in terminal:
Code:
glxinfo | grep direct
He was using beryl.
His direct rendering is off.

When I typed fglrxinfo it came up with Mesa 3d information. Instead of ATI.

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Old 11-30-2007, 11:31 AM   #7
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You (most probably) need to have DRI (direct rendering) enabled and to disable composite extension in xorg.conf (if it is enabled).
 
Old 11-30-2007, 11:54 AM   #8
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You (most probably) need to have DRI (direct rendering) enabled and to disable composite extension in xorg.conf (if it is enabled).
I cant seem to get direct rendering enabled.

This is what I tried.

Code:
aticonfig --initial

aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
Also tried uninstalling/reinstalling fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r).

Tried using envy, then manually installing the ati drivers, then just using the restricted drivers manager.

From what I've read online, if fglrxinfo is returning Mesa 3D, it means something is not installed correctly.

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Old 11-30-2007, 02:47 PM   #9
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Can you post your/his xorg.conf?

Btw, look here: http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2150
 
Old 11-30-2007, 11:26 PM   #10
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Thanks guys, I appreciate all the help I have been getting.
 
Old 12-02-2007, 10:54 PM   #11
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Alright guys, I got it working for me. Direct rendering and everything on my ATI card.
I went to ATI's site and got their driver pack for my card and then renamed the file to something smaller like "vidcard" so that I don't have to type out that long line each time.
When I got the file running, I selected the option that allows you to look for the other distributions (sorry I can't be more spicific, I already deleted them all in my excitement to see it all work) and it should list all the distros. Unfortunately it doesn't list Mint, but I used "Ubuntu/feisty" because of all the similarities I saw on ubuntus page. and that one was compatible, i'll explain that further.

In your terminal, type "sudo (the driver file) --listpkg " and a nice long list of the distros and their versions will pop up. I then found the "ubuntu/feisty" option and entered in the terminal "sudo (driver file name) --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty". Then it will say approximately 4 files have been successfully created in the home dir. I then executed each one and installed the packages, once all four were installed, I re-enabled my driver to be used in the restricted file manager. I then rebooted and saw this.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67...rkingexamp.jpg
 
Old 12-05-2007, 03:06 PM   #12
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Glad that you made it.
 
Old 12-05-2007, 11:15 PM   #13
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Thanks man, unfortunately I need to delete mint and start running ubuntu, I got everything working almost as far as wow goes, except things aren't rendering right, sound isn't working anymore, and since I got stranded with a 20gb drive that is now 100% full, I can no longer log into mint, due to it saying there is now no space for the authentication file.

Anyhow, unbuntu it is. Its widely supported in the linux community, so might as well build my knowledge from that =)
 
Old 02-14-2008, 10:42 PM   #14
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hey can anyone help me as well? So i have exactly the same problem...

I have installed my ATI driver and all but when i start the game it is also very laggy and it freezes :S.

I went to check my direct rendering and is off :S (it was enable before i installed the ati driver)

Can anyone help me with this? please? XD (o btw i'm using linux mint)
 
Old 02-14-2008, 10:45 PM   #15
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Quote:
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He was using beryl.
His direct rendering is off.

When I typed fglrxinfo it came up with Mesa 3d information. Instead of ATI.
I just did that on my terminal and it came up with the mesa 3d information as well. :S
 
  


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