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Old 08-02-2008, 02:30 AM   #16
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In my experience installing windows first then linux works better no idea why but it does
 
Old 08-02-2008, 04:56 AM   #17
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It always works better that way because Windows doesn't give a damn about other operating systems installed on a computer. Microsoft has no interest in making it easy for people to try something different, and their software will always be designed to take over whatever it can.

To be clear I never intended with my suggestion of using ntldr to chainload GRUB or LiLo to also suggest that one shouldn't install Windows first in a Windows&Linux or a Windows&Anything_Else dual boot setup.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 03:19 PM   #18
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I was having a lot of problems getting grub and lilo set up right, and found a program called EasyBCD that solved my problems. For someone new to linux(like me) this may be the BEST idea. It's a windows-based boot editor, instead of linux-based. So you are introducing linux to Windows, and not windows to linux. Now that I've got everything the way that I want it, I don't really use Vista anymore, but it still sits there on my HD. I have an XP virtualbox that I use for anything windows-based. With the guest additions installed, it's seamless, even on my 1280 x 800 screen. I love linux's flexibility. You're not tied to one look and setup. Heck, I can have 32 desktops to rotate around. I obviously could never think of any reason to use 32 desktops, but you have the choice to make linux react, and look however you choose. Once you customize linux to your liking, it is most of the time no longer immediately recognized as linux. It has become YOUR OS. And that is its beauty. Thank you Ubuntu.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 06:43 PM   #19
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I obviously could never think of any reason to use 32 desktops
:o The pager would take up half the screen! :P
 
Old 08-03-2008, 12:19 AM   #20
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It always works better that way because Windows doesn't give a damn about other operating systems installed on a computer. Microsoft has no interest in making it easy for people to try something different, and their software will always be designed to take over whatever it can.

To be clear I never intended with my suggestion of using ntldr to chainload GRUB or LiLo to also suggest that one shouldn't install Windows first in a Windows&Linux or a Windows&Anything_Else dual boot setup.

Be aware of Vista Service Pack 1 being Unfriendlly to Dual boot systems...

http://apcmag.com/vista_sp1_wont_ins..._microsoft.htm

Gotta love MS doing everything they can...
 
Old 08-03-2008, 03:35 AM   #21
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Thanks for the link about the incompatability between Vista's SP1 and linux bootloaders. I can already envision a lot of angry users. Fortunately for me, it appears I'm good to go, as long as I'm using EasyBCD bootloader. The site says "If the Linux and Vista partitions are installed on the same hard drive, you have to restore the Vista MBR, either using the Vista recovery DVD or using the MBR reinstall feature contained within EasyBCD, before installing SP1". Go me. I also happen to have created myself one of those Vista recovery cd's after ruining my MBR back in the beginning. MS, the geniuses they are, don't include any kind of recovery software, but you can find a dvd iso here: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/
 
Old 08-11-2008, 03:35 PM   #22
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Red face Close to Giving Up

Man, I tried Ndiswrapper to get the drivers working, but nothing. So, I inserted my Ubuntu live cd to my brothers hp pavillion laptop and see that it has the same problem with connection, though it isnt difficult to get the connection to work, weird thing is that the resolution look better on his then on my F750.
Im not familiar with tweaking but after reading David's post im all up to trying it again. I'll post the results after im done with the first step. THX David!
 
  


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