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Old 01-13-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
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Installation Mint 14 Nadia


I'm buying a new PC shortly, with no operating system installed. It will be something like AMD Bulldozer (or similar), 8gb RAM, ATI or NVidia mid range card with 1gb RAM, 1TB HDD with the intention of installing Linux Mint 14 Nadia 64 bit with the Mate desktop. Linked to a Samsung monitor.

To install it myself I understand I just need an ISO image burnt on to a DVD, start the machine up with this in the drive and it should automatically launch in to the installation procedure.

Am I right? Hopefully it will just be a case of someone saying yes - I just want to make sure I don't get any nasty surprises when I'm about to spend 300.

As I don't have a DVD writer (only CDRW) I will also need to find a DVD with Mint 14 on from somewhere (unless there is a way to cram it on to a CD!)
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:18 AM   #2
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Only thing to mess up that perfect experience would be UEFI. Hopefully you get a computer with Secure Boot disabled although if the Secure Boot would be enabled you would have Windows 8 installed on it anyway. But yeah UEFI would be a little bit of a question but more experienced Mint / Ubuntu users can be more specific I guess.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #3
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If this system can boot from USB, you just need to write (not copy) the ISO to the USB stick.

Looking at Mint's site, I don't see any ISOs small enough to fit on a CD, but most look like they should fit on a USB stick as small as 1 or 2 GB.

For this, you'll need a Linux system to use dd to write the image, or a similar program for Windows (http://www.chrysocome.net/dd) if that's what you will be using.

You can download UNetBootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/) and it will automatically download and copy the image to the USB stick and set it up for booting. Even set up persistence if you want to give Mint a few trial runs before committing.

As for UEFI, most PCs should have a way to turn off Secure Boot, you would have to get into the bios to do so. If you can't figure out the key to use, just go into Windows 8, Settings and Advanced Boot.

If you do use Mint 14, IIRC there is a bug where the installer did not install an EFI bootloader. It was fixed, just make sure you grab a ver 14.1 image.

Last edited by goumba; 01-13-2013 at 11:41 AM. Reason: Addressed UEFI
 
Old 01-13-2013, 11:38 AM   #4
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Create a USB installer

Hi Tom,

An easy answer to the question of install media is a USB thub drive and a program called UNetbootin, available here. UNetbootin will seetup a USB key to be bootable and put all of the install files on it. You may neeed to find the option in your BIOS to set it to boot fom USB, though some motherboards will let you choose a boot device at start up from a short list with out entring the BIOS and monkeying around with settings. One side benefit of using USB instead of a CD/DVD to install from is speed. Everything trandsfers much faster from a USB key compared to a an optical drive.

There are also plenty of sites that sell install DVD's for not too much money, but I haven't done that so I'll leave recomendations for that to somebody else. DVD burners are pretty cheap in my area, as are USB keys. You can reuse a USB key after the install, as well.

caboog

Edit: Looks like goumba beat me to it

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:57 AM   #5
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Thanks, I have a 4gb USB drive in front of me. I should be able to get Mint on to that and boot the new machine from USB then. As it will not have any operating system installed I'm assuming the secure boot issue won't be a problem.

I have a Mac running Lion at present so I'll get it on to USB through that.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 12:37 PM   #6
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I have to tell you though, with video cards NVIDIA nowaday is providing drivers for their stuff but I hear some people trying to get the NVIDIA Optimus to work under Linux and I heard it is very frustrating sometimes. And with the ATI video card Radeon some people also have had hard time. In laptops the Intel technology usually works out of the box and I dont know if they are available for desktop.

Currently I am typing this from a desktop with a GALAXY Geforce 8400GS, It is only 512MB of Ram in the card, it cost me $30 but it does everything I need I dont do games and stuff. I consider that to be middle range video card.

Anyway good luck to you and enjoy your new computer.
 
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In laptops the Intel technology usually works out of the box and I dont know if they are available for desktop.
They are.

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Currently I am typing this from a desktop with a GALAXY Geforce 8400GS, It is only 512MB of Ram in the card, it cost me $30 but it does everything I need I dont do games and stuff. I consider that to be middle range video card.
That is pretty low-end, not mid-range.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:28 PM   #8
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Thanks - I think Mint has a compatibility list on their site. I think a few people have already posted reports of the NVidia/ATI graphics results - I was planning on going with one of the versions already tested. I also plan to make sure I get mainstream hardware that has been out for at least 3 months - hopefully drivers etc will have been created for them.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:35 PM   #9
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Thanks - I think Mint has a compatibility list on their site. I think a few people have already posted reports of the NVidia/ATI graphics results - I was planning on going with one of the versions already tested. I also plan to make sure I get mainstream hardware that has been out for at least 3 months - hopefully drivers etc will have been created for them.
I think planning on getting hardware that has been out for a while is a great I dea. Mint also is pretty good at supporting hardware. I have two laptops and two desktop but my computers are just crap that noone else wants any more. But hey they still work for what I do.

Good luck to you!
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:58 PM   #10
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I have an Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti that woks great, albeit is a bit older now. With Valve getting involved in Linux, graphics drives are getting much better. I think Nvidia and Intel are the best choices for graphics at this point, but I have a laptop that uses AMD and it works fairly well after a little tweaking. Google is your friend when it comes to finding compatible graphics solutions and getting your setup working just right

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Old 01-13-2013, 02:04 PM   #11
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As graphics in Linux is all about OpenGL, and in OpenGL, the drivers matter, then NVidia is doing much better job with Linux drivers than AMD. So with Linux, I suggest to stick with NVidia.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 02:13 PM   #12
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I am thinking of buying it from http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk which seems to offer some good prices. I see they do Nvidia or ATI graphics which is good.

Ideally though I would love to buy it with Mint preinstalled to avoid any hastle - however I can't seem to find anywhere in the UK that offers this at the moment.
 
  


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