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Old 09-10-2011, 02:03 AM   #1
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Hi everyone I'm completely new to linux and installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my pc alonside windows xp (mainly because I was bored) However as it turns out I love the look and feel of linux but I have a few questions I hope someone can help me with. My pc has 2 hard drives 1 80 gb bootdrive with xp installed and a 40gb drive I use for storing files. I wanted to resize my boot drive partition and instal Ubunto alongside xp on the same drive but the instalation wizard would't allow me to that unless I manually repartitioned which I didn't feel confident to do so I was forced to instal on my 40gb drive which I didn't really want to do, Can anyone tell me what I done wrong and if it can be changed without too much trouble, any help would be appreciated.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 07:05 AM   #2
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Hello Emegra, welcome to LQ,

the correct way is at first to decrease the size of the Windows-partition and afterwards to create a new partition for Linux in the free space.

So what you describe (as I understand you) at first to repartition and then to decrease will not work. Maybe you've missunderstood the installer?

Could you please post the output of
Code:
df -h
and
Code:
fdisk -l
Markus
 
Old 09-10-2011, 11:03 AM   #3
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Hello Emegra, welcome to LQ,

the correct way is at first to decrease the size of the Windows-partition and afterwards to create a new partition for Linux in the free space.

So what you describe (as I understand you) at first to repartition and then to decrease will not work. Maybe you've missunderstood the installer?

Could you please post the output of
Code:
df -h
and
Code:
fdisk -l
Markus
Thanks for your reply I think your right in saying I misunderstood the installer The problem at the time was I thought the installer would resize my c drive partition for me or at least give me the option to set it myself and as I wasn't confident enough to take the manual option I opted to let the installer install on the D drive. I hope I'm making sense because I'm not particularly computer literate and unfortunately I dont understand "Could you please post the output of
Code:
df -h
and
Code:
fdisk -l
" or how to do it sorry and hope I'm not trying your patience too much, Thank you
 
Old 09-10-2011, 11:13 AM   #4
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Well, start Ubuntu, open a terminal, type the above command (df -h) and then press enter. Then you'll see the output of the command. Do the same for fdisk -l. It will tell us how many space there is on the drive.

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Old 09-12-2011, 02:16 AM   #5
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Hi Markush sorry I,ve taken so long to get back to you been busy at work and this is the first chance I'had.

To make matters worse many things are wrong with this instalation and I was only trying to deal with one at a time but since then things have got worse , (1) If I use any function on the media player i'm immediately booted out and have to re log in, (2) If i click shutdown instead of shutting down I'm just taken back to the Ubuntu log in screen, likewise if I reboot I'm just taken to the log in screen so If I want to log into my windows os I have to manually shut down the pc and reboot, to compound these problems I now have no network or internet connection it did work when it was first installed but it just stopped working and I never altered any setting I'm aware of I've spent hours trying to fix it but I'm left clueless.So to give you the informatiion you want I have to work between the 2 operating systems shutting down the pc each time but I'll try to give you he information from windows.

Drive c is 80gb with windows xp installed with only i ntfs partition only 12.6gb used
Drive d is 40gb and was clean with ony 1 ntfs partition, it now has 3 partitions 1 ntfs (19.3), 1 unknown (17.8) and 1 unknown (893mb).

Clearly I,ve made a mess of this instalation and my thoughts are to uninstal Ubuntu and and start again but my fear is I'll lose the windows mbr file and lose windows as well any advice would be appreciated thanks
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:46 AM   #6
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Before you can get any specific help, you will need to post some information as suggested above. Start by booting your Ubuntu CD, open a terminal and enter this command: sudo fdisk -l(lower case Letter L in the command) and post it here. This will be helpful to see how Ubuntu views your drives/partitions. Your references to C and D are meaningless because those are windows naming conventions.

Are you able to boot both Ubuntu and xp?
No internet in the installed Ubuntu or the CD?
Posting the partition information should help if you want to reinstall also as someone will be able to explain where to install Ubuntu, which drive/partition so you don't overwrite your windows in the mbr.
The unknown output you get for partitions is because windows doesn't recognize Linux filesystems.
You don't "uninstall" operating systems whether Linux, windows or other. You just format the drive/partition it is on and install whatever else to the drive/partition.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 10:44 AM   #7
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Before you can get any specific help, you will need to post some information as suggested above. Start by booting your Ubuntu CD, open a terminal and enter this command: sudo fdisk -l(lower case Letter L in the command) and post it here. This will be helpful to see how Ubuntu views your drives/partitions. Your references to C and D are meaningless because those are windows naming conventions.
Trying to make this easy, what Yancek means is put you ubuntu cd in and do not install but use as live cd. If you do not have an internet connection try and copy information word by word and then post. Any questions ask and one of us will try and answer.

Last edited by Larry Webb; 09-12-2011 at 10:45 AM.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 01:32 PM   #8
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Just like to say thanks for everyones help and patience so far. I'm very tied up with work commitments at the moment but first chance I get I'll do what you suggest and post the information as soon as I can.

To answer one of your questions I can still boot into windows and Ubunto ok there's no problem there if thats any help but I understand the need for more information and I appreciate the help

I've used windows for years and can usually sort out problems myself given time (system restore has been a godsend) I installed Ubunto really to give it a try and initially I was impressed but would I be right in saying that Linux is for more computer literate people than the average windows user like myself or have I just had a bad start ?
 
Old 09-12-2011, 02:42 PM   #9
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I don't think Linux is for more computer literate people. You've been using windows for years and have problems with Linux because it is different. If you'd been using Linux for years and tried windows I expect you would find it even more difficult.

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(system restore has been a godsend)
That's a pretty drastic solution to a problem. When you come back, please post the partition information I asked for in my previous post by using the method explained by Larry Webb.
 
Old 09-16-2011, 04:23 PM   #10
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Before you can get any specific help, you will need to post some information as suggested above. Start by booting your Ubuntu CD, open a terminal and enter this command: sudo fdisk -l(lower case Letter L in the command) and post it here. This will be helpful to see how Ubuntu views your drives/partitions. Your references to C and D are meaningless because those are windows naming conventions.

Are you able to boot both Ubuntu and xp?
No internet in the installed Ubuntu or the CD?
Posting the partition information should help if you want to reinstall also as someone will be able to explain where to install Ubuntu, which drive/partition so you don't overwrite your windows in the mbr.
The unknown output you get for partitions is because windows doesn't recognize Linux filesystems.
You don't "uninstall" operating systems whether Linux, windows or other. You just format the drive/partition it is on and install whatever else to the drive/partition.

Hello again Vancek sorry I've taken so long to reply I'v been very tied up with work and this is the first chance I've had to get on my PC I appreciate you're patience, Heres the information you asked for I hope I done it right I can t get online with Ubuntu anymore so I had to copy and paste into text editor then save as a windows file then paste it here once again thanks for your help.

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
aufs 437M 73M 365M 17% /
none 431M 676K 430M 1% /dev
/dev/sr0 686M 686M 0 100% /cdrom
/dev/loop0 658M 658M 0 100% /rofs
none 437M 100K 437M 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 437M 12K 437M 1% /tmp
none 437M 88K 437M 1% /var/run
none 437M 4.0K 437M 1% /var/lock
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x34f6278a

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 2523 20258609 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 2523 4866 18823169 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 2523 4752 17907712 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 4752 4866 914432 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10337 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc5eb021f

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 10336 78140128+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
 
  


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