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Old 01-12-2013, 04:56 AM   #1
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Install problem on Linux 14Mate Live DVD


G'Morning
Yes I am a "newbie" to linux. Years of dedicated windows use (( from windows 3.1 up to vista)) I've decided to make the plunge into Linux.
The problem I've discovered is there is a whole lot of world out there to learn/relearn.
I've downloaded Linux14 Mate Live.iso and burned it to DVD. it boots up ok, and runs in windows ok, but whenever I go thru install, it gets to the part where it asks me which partition to use, it locks up and sits there, not showing me any choices to choose to continue (( i.e. its not seeing my hard drives)). So Instead I'm downloading as I speak Linux 12 Fedora?? or is it Gnome?? the torrent says gnome, but I got it from a fedora page.
Anyway... am I doing something wrong with the "Mate" install?
system specs:
2.8GHZ Dual Core intel proc,
4800 ATI radeon Graphic card,
965t Motherboard (( capable 64x bus))
4GB DDR2 Ram
820 GB SATA Hard drives (( 1 500, 1 320))
soundblaster audigy
Currently Running windows xp Prof main OS.

I removed the slideshow thingy, as per a post I've already read here on the forums. still no luck it just wont see my hard drives in that window of install. ((edited to add this info))
Linux Curious,
Trae

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Old 01-12-2013, 06:14 AM   #2
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G'Morning Traeldor,

First, welcome to Linux. I am an old Windows user with experiences from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I am not sure about your install of Linux Mint. I have been using Fedora and have recently upgraded to Fedora 18 (which is now due out January 15th, 1013) There have been many growing pains in Fedora as they are re-architecting the install to disk of the Operating System, and I suspect MATE is going through the same pains.

I think GNOME refers to the desktop it is using. Right now, I am using Fedora and using the KDE desktop, although I have GNOME and cinnamon installed on this Fedora desktop as well. (I hope this is not more confusing than it needs to be..)

The specs on your computer look good to me. Plenty of RAM and Hard drive space. You probably want to dual boot Windows XP for a while and then you can eventually toss out that partition.

I think Fedora 12 is too old for you to validate. Fedora 17 is the current release with Fedora 18 due out on 1/15/13. See
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all for the different download options.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

- Raj
 
Old 01-12-2013, 08:58 AM   #3
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turns out it was Linux Mint12, Lisa. and it did the exact same thing.
the install program gets to the partition choice, and no choices come into the window.When I click "continue" it errors me into " no root directory chosen." its the third window in the install series. I have another machine with 2-120GB hard drives and a 2.4GHZ AMD processor. I'm going to experiment and install the software onto it to see if its my motherboard on my main machine. Wouldn't surprise me. Thanks for the time.
I was just wondering if there was some sort of command I'm supposed to type in, for the install program to "see" my hard drives. There's a long rectangle box underneath the empty window , that holds "/dsv" and another command I cannot remember, however it does not drop down menu, nor does it allow me to type anything in. I am perplexed to say the least and half tempted to not bother trying to fight to install LInux LOL But ain't that the rub? we all love a good challenge, and I'm not going to let a lil software stump Me LOL.

Trae
 
Old 01-12-2013, 09:42 AM   #4
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Did you select "Something Else" as the option in the previous window? or one of the other options? Something else will give you more control and you will be able to see what is happening. There is usually a colored bar at the top of the window which also shows the partitions, the ones you are not seeing in the main window. If you don't see anything there, it's not going to work. I'm a little curious about your statement in the initial post:

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and runs in windows ok
Linux Mint has a program called mint4win which would install Mint as a program inside windows. Is that what you are trying to do? or are you booting the computer with the Mint CD in the CD drive to install? Curious as the statement immediately preceding the above is "boots up OK". The long rectangle box you refer to in your last post is the location of the bootloader. As a long time windows user, I would not expect you to be familiar with that as you probably never had a choice, it automatically installed to the mbr. The default will likely show /dev/sda which would mean the mbr of your first drive.

I saw a post 2-3 months ago here at LQ where a member had this exact problem. I know it was Mint but not sure which release. Did you do the md5checksum on your download before burning to DVD? Also, it is best to burn at a slow speed. If I find the other post, I'll repost here if there was a solution. Good luck with it.
 
Old 01-12-2013, 10:07 AM   #5
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no didn't do something else..... and didn't do the checksum on the iso either.... in answer to your other questions, I'll rephrase...

when I start the dvd within windows it starts ok from the drive, i.e. it opens up a window and asks me which I would like to do, start within windows, or install to its own partition, I choose the second option, to start its own partition, the program then asks me if I would like to reboot, and I choose yes. it reboots . starts linux, then I click on install now, and then I get the problem.....
if I dont start in windows, and fire it up directly from a powered down position, it boots up ok in the dvd drive, starts linux and runs great, then when I try to install it to my hard drive(s) it locks. I have not attempted to install it directly within windows as I dont want it within windows. I want it on its own partition or even its own drive. ((thats why I have two of em. I'm not going to fill up a 500GB main drive anytime soon lol ))
could it be the SATA drives? I did remove my 500GB hard drive from the system (( the one with windows, and attempted a clean install to the 320GB SATA Maxtor Drive.\

and it did the same thing on the other system. it would not see the 320GB SATA drive there either (( 2.4GHZ Dual Core AMD, with an ASUS Motherboard)) So I could presume it is my copy of the software. I am downloading the Fedora from the fedora Site link from the other post (( Thanks for the link BTW)) takes a couple of hours on the "free wifi" in my apartment complex LOL(( 3.?? GB download)).

Will look for the "something else" you mentioned.
OH after rereading your post, I realised. the 320 GB drive is set up (( from caldera dos)) as a secondary hard drive (( no mbr)) only the 500 GB Drive currently has an MBR, I SUPPOSE I could set it up as a boot drive, then try that!!(( edited this paragraph for clarity))

Trae

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Old 01-12-2013, 10:52 AM   #6
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ok there is no "something else"
first window choice of language.... second window= two parameters for install((6.5 GB of hard drive space and an internet connection[ all good on my end])) third window....installation type. here it has a row across the type "device type, mount point, format, size, and used. under that bar a large rectangle text box, empty of anything, under that a bar with new partition table, add, change, delete, and revert buttons. under that header bar " Device for boot loader installation" under that /dev/sda. on bottom of that window is quit, back, and install buttons. the only thing clickable on that window is quit, back or install now buttons. install gives me an error. " no root directory defined" quit , quits, back. goes back.
I will try the fedora in a couple of hours when it finished the torrent d/l..... but otherwise.... I'm quite a bit disappointed in this whole big linux deal. I wanted to move out from windows.
OH BTW I did an integrity check from the boot menu during startup, and it all checks out good, no errors. it just stops there.
I would like to say, Thanks for the help, I appreciate the support and your kind welcomes. . its just my luck that they software/or my system is. "fudged"

Trae
 
Old 01-12-2013, 11:49 AM   #7
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Firstly, did you get a copy of the instructions?
http://www.linuxmint.com/documentati...glish_13.0.pdf

It's a pity that they don't show anything but the results of "erase disk". Otherwise, you should see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GParted.png
 
Old 01-12-2013, 11:49 AM   #8
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I think the way that the Hard drive was originally formated for the Windows installation has something to do. If you happen to have a blank hard drive with nothing in it you could swap it with the original in the computer and boot your Mint DVD. And install Mint on it using the whole drive.

I think it would be safe that way too, in case you would want to go back to Windows you could insert the Windows Hard drive in the computer and boot in it.

Hard drives nowadays are inexpense and for Linux you could even get a second hand hard drive. You could remove it from an computer that got is motherboard damage and is far from being repaired.

If your computer is fairly new you probably will need a SATA hard drive, and you can google the user manual for your model to show how the hard drive can be extracted.

Good luck to you.

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Old 01-12-2013, 12:03 PM   #9
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Ok solved the problem or at least discovered what the problem was with auto installation. as with earlier versions of windows xp (( prior to sp2)) the install program did not "see" my SATA drives. I hooked up a 120GB IDE hard drive and it installed JUST FINE. .
so its happy camping time for Me WOOOOT!
 
Old 01-12-2013, 12:07 PM   #10
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Try Debian it should be able to boot & you can use a cd instead of dvd. Might as well get debian wheezy since it will be the next release. Hopefully you'll be able to get the Radeon drivers to work as support was dropped by ATI upto 5000 series.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 06:18 AM   #11
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FYI. none of the Mint installers for a couple of programs (( i.e. 12, & 14)) would see my SATA drives to install the software to.While the LIve CD running did "see" the hard drives, and I was able to acces (( mount)) them from the virtual Desktop,
Fedora 17 installer "saw" them, and installed from the DVD I burned.
Up and running, 64 Bit, Linux, Fedora 17!!!!
Yay, Now I'm part of the "Linux" Family LOL. Its Game on now heheh.

Thanks for the help and directions,
Trae
 
Old 01-13-2013, 06:25 AM   #12
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Quote:
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I think it would be safe that way too, in case you would want to go back to Windows you could insert the Windows Hard drive in the computer and boot in it.
With Fedora 17 came "grub" a boot loader app that enables me to choose what I want to load.
My whole purpose was to install LInux OS on one hard drive, leave Windows on the other (( till I get used to LInux, and find out which programs are not compatable with linux that I still need windows for. i.e. things like c#, Everquest2. java.))
I read in a post somewhere that C++ is "more better" with Linux than C#. That C# is more "windows" based. which is kewl. I have some limited experience with c++, and Visual Basic. This should be fun, now I can relearn c++ .
But thanks for the advice. I actually had a couple of spare IDE hard drives around. .

Trae
 
Old 01-13-2013, 11:12 AM   #13
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you will find that a lot of programs in windows have a comparable version in linux
You will have to install flashplugin(Adobe) & java, also if you want your documents from your office program (libreoffice or openoffice) readable in windows you have to change the settings to save documents in ms format.
To do that go to Tools>>General>>Load/Save>>Always Save As.
 
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If you want to find programs, as well as browsing the package installer you can look at this site:
http://linuxappfinder.com
 
  


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