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Old 03-25-2010, 11:44 AM   #1
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Install linux from windows


Mainly, I want to install linux from Win Xp. I have 40 gb harddrive on two partitions, and I wish to install some lightweight distro on one partrition for basic work, and the windows to stay for games an stuff. The problem is, that my cd doesn't work (this is a laptop) and the bios doesn't support usb. I am not exactly a newbie and I don't mind command lines and such things, especially whit all the help on the net. But I don't want to totaly screw my laptop and mess whit the bios and the grub, it's still very useful. I tried Wubu and it works, but all the ubuntus are very heavy for my pc, and I will have to reinstall it along whit the win, when it locks up. I tried installing puppy with wakepup diskete, but it didn't recognize my grafhic card drivers (and whit the bootdisk it had no problems once, when the cd still worked.) I tried Unetboot, and the for the first time it went fine after the restart, and then had some faliure, and since then it doesn't want to boot from there(even after reinstalling windows and making bootfix and mbrfix). Maybe if you can help me with this... Tried antiX, but after hour of work it stopped working(missing all kind of files). Finally tried grub, but it turned my dos into some unreadable mess. Tried typing out blindly, but didn't work, so I reinstalled the mbr.
I want some lighweight distro, like puppy or archlinux. Do any of them have some program for subtitle editing, like Subtitle workshop? This is mainly what i use it for. I need also video player with subtitles. And I need it to read whitout problems the windows cyrillic encoding - I found a bulgarian version of ubuntu, and it doesn't read bulgarian texts! I have to open it manually...
I would be glad if you help me with that, because I'm already starting to have doubts about linux. I tried mac too, but neither can't do all I need them to. Maybe windows is best after all...

Here is my spec, if they would help:
pentium 3 - 450 mhz
S3 savage IX 8 mb videocard
320 mb ram
win Xp sp 1
 
Old 03-25-2010, 05:18 PM   #2
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You will have to look for low resource distros to start. I agree that windows on that system has value and works OK.

There are a few ways to try.

One is network installs. I find them easy but I have played with it a lot. Locally a mounted disk or iso on a local machine or boot to floppy and connect to network to install. A gpxe floppy would do or the distro's network install floppys. A different approach is to use http://www.netboot.me and also see BKO boot kernel org.

Another is wubi. Wubi might even be modified for other distro's.

Another is to borrow a cd usb if the system has a floppy. A floppy would boot enough to teach the usb cd to work.
That would be same as a usb flash too.

You might be able to move the hard drive to another working system too and load it and move it back.

There might be a few more easy ways too.

For documentation see bable.yahoo.com to translate maybe help pages.

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Old 03-25-2010, 07:31 PM   #3
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Have a look at plop boot manager:

http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html

This allows you to boot from usb even if the bios does not support it.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 01:03 AM   #4
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Well, i tried plop, but it seems it has problems booting from usb 1.0 (What I have). Netboot shows a screen whit only "default" choice and repeats this one screen. Maybe because I have a pcmcia card with cable. Btw, is it normal for wibi to be so slow? I tried xubuntu from it and it was as slow as ubuntu and kubuntu - it is sopposed to be much lighter, right?
 
Old 03-26-2010, 01:19 AM   #5
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You need to try Wubi. It's an ubuntu deal, comes with the iso image download, and you can install it without partitioning, yet have a classic dual-boot. It will put the linux filesystem on a virtual disk file inside windows that you can easily delete or send to the recycle bin in windows if you need the extra space. You just open the file, and open 'wubi.exe' and run it. It's that simple. Decide how much disk space you want linux to have, and go have fun!!! http://wubi-installer.org/
now you got no excuse for not using linux.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 08:47 AM   #6
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I tried Wubu, i mention it on my first post. Please, read it all, i tried to be as clear as I can. Btw, is there a way to install another distro on harddrive via linux? I can install wubu ubuntu and from there some other distro.

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Old 03-26-2010, 05:10 PM   #7
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Take the hard drive out and move it to a supported system might be easier.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 07:27 PM   #8
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First, this is a laptop, and the only other laptop is a mac - and he has different chipset. I have changed the harddrive - it was 6 GB in the beginning - but i can connect it only to a usb adapter, which I doubt that will work for instalation.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 08:07 PM   #9
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I don't know if this is crazy, but is it possible to just copy the root directory of a working Linux installation into a hard drive partition?
 
Old 03-26-2010, 09:29 PM   #10
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What we used to do with linux under dos/95 is to run a program to kick command out and load linux. Loadlin doesn't work with xp. I think they did update some program to act like loadlin so you could actually copy linux and boot it from within windows. You'd have to setup a filesystem like zipslack did. Ufs or dosufs or something like that. If you had a floppy with dos or another linux boot floppy you could then access the install.
 
  


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