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Old 09-14-2011, 12:13 PM   #121
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I am big fan of Ubuntu .. I never used Mint .. So, I prefer Ubuntu due its LTS and GUI
 
Old 09-14-2011, 12:42 PM   #122
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Ok, looks like I'm back to asking for help with installing unetbootin on my own computer. I'm a little more confident after having gone through the maze of details making a backup flash drive--many thanks to Wim Sturkenboom for that.

So here goes.

I now have unetbootin in my Downloads directory. How do I install it and run it? When I right click on it I get a list of all my applications to open it with. A few of these don't work and I suspect none will.
 
Old 09-14-2011, 03:01 PM   #123
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I'm a little more confident after having gone through the maze of details making a backup flash drive--many thanks to Wim Sturkenboom for that.
Please give the honors to MTK358; he pulled you through the final glitches that you encountered.

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I now have unetbootin in my Downloads directory. How do I install it and run it? When I right click on it I get a list of all my applications to open it with. A few of these don't work and I suspect none will.
You have to make it executable. I guess that that is an option in the right-click menu as well (under permissions). Next you can run it with a double click.

I don't think you need to install, but I might be wrong. You will find out if you run it and it does not show the screen that you expect (as seen on the unetbootin website).

You (more than likely) need root permissions again (e.g. sudo); on my Crunchbang system it asks for the sudo password. There might also be an option in the right-click menu run as root (or administrator or so)? Else you have to resort to the terminal again and navigate to the 'downloads' directory; it's probably a subdirectory of your home folder.

To navigate (assuming 'Downloads' is a subdirectory of your home directory) in a freshly opened terminal
Code:
cd Downloads
To change the permissions (assuming the file is called unetbootin)
Code:
chmod 755 unetbootin
To run it with root permissions
Code:
sudo unetbootin
This should give you the normal unetbootin screen. If any of the steps above gives an error or if something unexpected happens, please post it here and we will try to fix it. Be aware that Linux is case sensitive so e.g. 'Downloads' and 'downloads' is not the same.

Before you run the last command above, insert your empty flash drive. unetbootin automatically picks it up on my Aspire One as /dev/sdb1.

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Old 09-14-2011, 03:24 PM   #124
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Yes, I definitely am indebted to MTK358. Thanks!!!
 
Old 09-14-2011, 03:29 PM   #125
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I have to go downtown and buy a flash drive. So I'll be offline for a while.

Thanks for those instructions.
 
Old 09-14-2011, 07:42 PM   #126
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I have successfully updated my backup to flash drive. Thank you!

Now as for creating the bootable drive:

I don't see any place, on right click, for making the file "unetbootin" executable.

I get misleading information as to making the file executable. Here are the two contradictory conditions:

1) When I right click I get a window, and on that window I click on "properties". There it says that the kind of file is "executable". This tells me that the file is already executable.

2) When I double click on unetbootin I get a window that tells me I have chosen to open the file and asks me if I want to save it. This tells me that the file is not executable.

I am in a holding pattern, then, at the point of making the file executable.

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Old 09-14-2011, 08:16 PM   #127
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What is the name of the UNetbootin file you downloaded?
 
Old 09-14-2011, 08:19 PM   #128
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The name of the file is:

unetbootin-linux-555
 
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Try this:

Code:
cd ~/Downloads
chmod a+x unetbootin-linux-555
./unetbootin-linux-555
 
Old 09-14-2011, 11:22 PM   #130
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This seems to have worked. I now have a window which has asked me what distribution and version I want, plus other options.

However, before I get into those issues, I need to ask about my flash drive: when I inserted it and it turned on, file manager displayed some contents in it that were already on it. Here they are:



a folder titled "club_application"

a folder titled "SanDiskSecureAccess"

a file titled "autorun.inf"

a file titled "RunClubSanDisk.exe"

a file titled "RunSanDiskSecureAccess_Win.exe"



Should I leave these on the drive, delete them, or something else? Do you know what they are? I can only guess.



Now, as for unetbootin:

I have selected Linux Mint. I was hoping there would be an option for version 11, but there isn't. They go as far as versions:

10_Live
10_Live_x64

Should I settle for one of these? I am guessing that x64 refers to what I hazily think of as a 64-bit machine. I'm sure mine is only 32-bit, so I guess I should go with version 10_Live. Can I upgrade to version 11 later? Doesn't make much sense to me, though. If it can be gotten through an upgrade now, it ought to be available through unetbootin. But I'm only guessing.

Thanks for getting me this far. I feel like we're getting near success.

Not sure what Live refers to.
 
Old 09-15-2011, 12:42 AM   #131
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'Live' refers to a version that can run of the flash disk. I'm not familiar with Mint; as it's based on Ubuntu, that version probably has the option to install onto your harddisk as well. You do NOT want the x64 version as that is for 64bit processors. So your option is the 10_Live.

Alternatively, you can download first from the mint download page. There are four versions displayed; the first three are gnome based and probably too heavy for your computer; additional comments below.
1) DVD
I'm not sure if unetbootin can write DVDs, so personally another reason why I would not take that version. The complete install will also more than likely fill up the best part of your harddisk so no space for documents etc.
2) CD no codecs
That is an option; you can install the codecs later if you need them
3) OEM
Also an option although with your experience more than likely not the best one
4) LXDE
Definitely the advised option in my opinion as you're not going to install on a super-duper computer. I know; I'm typing this on an Aspire One.

So your options are either the 10_Live (downloaded via unetbootin) or the the newer LXDE version that you have to manually download first. If you opt for the latter, I advise to verify the md5sum as well using the command line program md5sum.

PS
As said, not familiar with mint so I'm not quite sure if the option is there. In general you can upgrade from one version to the next. Success is not always guaranteed; I upgraded Ubuntu from 6.06 to 8.04 without problems and from 8.04 to 10.04 and ended up doing a fresh install. So I would rather go for 11 directly (saves you a download as well).

PPS
Wipe the flashdrive clean; those programs are windows specific. If you really want to keep them, copy them via the aspire one to the backup flashdrive.

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Old 09-15-2011, 02:09 AM   #132
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I'm going for UNetbootin and Mint 10.

Here are two questions:

1) There is a bullet to click on labeled "Disk Image". Hovering over the bullet shows the words "specify a disk image file to load".

Should I click on the bullet?

2) I tried running the program and got the message "No USB flash drives were found. If you have already inserted a USB drive, try reformatting it as FAT32."

My flash drive is inserted. There is also a drop down window that's labeled "Drive". It has no choices in it. It's right by a drop down window with the two choices of "USB drive" and "hard disk". Naturally, I choose USB drive. I assume the "drive" window will have a choice for my specific flash drive once it is formatted FAT32, as they suggest.

How do I reformat the flash drive as FAT32?
 
Old 09-15-2011, 02:24 AM   #133
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Did my backup job backup all my notes--all those bare little text windows? Will Mint have notes and accept the backup's note content?

If I can't back them up straight I'm planning to take the most important ones and load them into writer files.
 
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1) There is a bullet to click on labeled "Disk Image". Hovering over the bullet shows the words "specify a disk image file to load".
No; you use that one if you already have downloaded the iso and it's somewhere on your harddisk.

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2) I tried running the program and got the message "No USB flash drives were found. If you have already inserted a USB drive, try reformatting it as FAT32."

My flash drive is inserted. There is also a drop down window that's labeled "Drive". It has no choices in it. It's right by a drop down window with the two choices of "USB drive" and "hard disk". Naturally, I choose USB drive. I assume the "drive" window will have a choice for my specific flash drive once it is formatted FAT32, as they suggest.

How do I reformat the flash drive as FAT32?
Some possible options why it goes wrong:
Did you safely remove the flash drive before starting unetbootin? If so, unetbootin might not pick it up.
Did you start unetbootin from the command line using sudo? It will need root privileges.
To solve, fix the above first. If that does not help

Ain't there an option in the right-click menu to format the drive?
Using the command line (after inserting the flash disk)

determine who it is
Code:
mount
Assuming it's /dev/sdb1

format it
Code:
umount /dev/sdb1
mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
You might need sudo in front of those; replace sdb1 by what you found in the mount command.

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Old 09-15-2011, 06:53 AM   #135
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Did my backup job backup all my notes--all those bare little text windows? Will Mint have notes and accept the backup's note content?

If I can't back them up straight I'm planning to take the most important ones and load them into writer files.
That is what is worrying me a bit. It will more than likely be backed up but the format is another question. The same applies to writer files, spreadsheets, contacts etc.

We can try to determine what is what.

How do you save notes? Using a filename? If so, you can use the find command to locate it/them and the file command to determine the type of content. I've created a fake note (as I don't have the notes application) and saved it as somenote.note
Code:
wim@aa0:~$ find . -iname "somenote*"
./documents/somenote.note
wim@aa0:~$ file ./documents/somenote.note 
./documents/somenote.note: ASCII text
wim@aa0:~$
I only use a part of the filename to look for the file. Once you know where the file is, you can pass it as the argument to the file command.
If it says that it is an 'ASCII text', you're absolutely safe as it can be opened with any editor. If it says something else, let us know and we can try to determine the next step.

The above approach works for any file that you save under a filename (e.g. writer files, spreadsheets etc).

If you don't save them under a filename (this is, the notes application saves it somewhere or you forgot the filename), you can use the grep command and the file command.

Open an existing note so you know part of the contents (let's say that the note contains the words my note). Open a terminal and use the grep command as show below. For this exercise, I faked two other files and I removed the 'somenote.note'.

Code:
wim@aa0:~$ grep -ir "my note" *
documents/somenote.txt:this is my note
Binary file mybinaryfile matches
wim@aa0:~$
Note that this command can take a while to run (took a few minutes on my aspire one because it also 'scans' an iso that I have.
The command grep does the search. -i indicates that we don't care about uppercase and lowercase. -r (as part of -ir) makes it go through all files and directories (recursive). Between double quotes is the search term (if you have spaces in the search term, you need the double quotes); don't try to search for 'fancy' characters like the dot, caret, square and round brackets, single and double quotes etc; it might affect the results or throw errors; those 'fancy' characters are always a trial-and-error exercise for me.

Once you have found the note, you can again determine what it is by using the file command.

In this example the (faked) note is found in the documents directory in a file called somenote.txt; it was also found in a binary file in the home directory.
Your result will differ and will hopefully only return one result.

Code:
wim@aa0:~$ file documents/somenote.txt 
documents/somenote.txt: ASCII text
wim@aa0:~$
Code:
wim@aa0:~$ file mybinaryfile 
mybinaryfile: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'zenlive                        ' (bootable)
wim@aa0:~$
In the latter case (if it is not ASCII text) it depends on the output; let us know so we might be able to advise.

PS
Can you let us know which applications your using? Do you sue an email client or web-based email?
Also I'm not sure what type of files are created on your system if you use e.g. writer; it might be openoffice files but you can use find and file as shown earlier to determine and let us know what the results are.

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