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Old 05-24-2007, 12:57 AM   #1
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I want a distro that allows ntfs and starts with the basics...


I have tried mepis and ubuntu and such and its all too bulky for me. Is there a distro out there that lets you start from scratch? I want to use fluxbox/blackbox, open office, and Firefox and thats about it. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time....

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Old 05-24-2007, 01:36 AM   #2
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I would think that all distros can be turned into the sort of thing that you have in mind, you just need to remove any components you don't like (gnome and KDE). However, there are a few distros out there that will allow you to build your system pretty much from scratch.
The first that comes to mind is Gentoo but that is fairly advanced material (although I think you could get pretty far if you use their latest liveCD and stick carefully to their excellent handbook). Also you'll need some patience because Gentoo builds everything from source. I recently set up Gentoo with X and a bare Gnome and it took 7 hours on a Core2Duo with 2GB PC6400 RAM (by comparison, I spent well over a week compiling it with a rather bloated Gnome and KDE on an AMD3800 with 1 GB of DDR2 RAM). I imagine that building just X and flux won't take much longer than five or six hours on the average computer. Openoffice can be installed as a binary package instead of building it from source (possibly firefox as well), which could save you a few extra hours of compiling. btw, if you do choose Gentoo (remember I said it can be pretty tough at times), do not install the packages from the LiveCD, it has a bug which gets in the way of doing that - choose the net install, which will fetch all your packages from the internet.
I think Slackware could be worth looking into as well but I'm afraid I have never used it so I can't really say much on that topic. It is extremely flexible as well - but as so often more flexibility also means more complexity.
Or if you just like a slender distro that is all ready to go, you could try puppy, zenwalk, etc (visit Distrowatch.com for more information)

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Old 05-24-2007, 01:45 AM   #3
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Most distro's allow you to install a lightweight desktop environment instead of KDE or GNOME. You may need to choose manual selection of packages. There are also some lightweight distro's like puppy linux that use a lighter weight desktop by default.
 
Old 05-24-2007, 03:21 AM   #4
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slackware gives you the options for a very lightweight dstro
though you may need get a new kernel after you finish to take advantage of thinsg like dual core,

note, if you use sata drives then you need the sata.i kernel form the install cd to recognise them!
 
Old 05-25-2007, 11:34 AM   #5
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I have just installed slackware but i picked the full install. That im sure was a mistake, but i did not know which things i needed and which things i did not. Also i have a broadcom 4306 for wireless and a realteck for lan. It took me a good twenty minutes to get my lan working and i still cant get ndiswrapper to install. lilo also wrote over grub corrupting it so i had to reinstall grub over lilo to make linux bootable.

I like how mepis auto configured my wireless card and lan card but dont like how i have to switch the use/dont use windows driver option and reboot each time i switch from lan to wireless. As far as a front end. I like fluxbox and blackbox and would really like to try enlightenment.

Does anyone have any links to guides/tutorials on how to strip down a distro to bones or how/what to install from slackware to be bare bones?

Also with each different distro there seems to be a different way to get and search for packages aptitude search, apt-cache, apt-get, etc. Why is this and can you mix and match from distros?
 
Old 05-25-2007, 12:16 PM   #6
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LFS

www.linuxfromscratch.org That will walk you through setting up a distro from "scratch" and you can also see what tools are the basics, and go with a barebones/minimalistic approach.

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Old 05-25-2007, 12:20 PM   #7
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Also with each different distro there seems to be a different way to get and search for packages aptitude search, apt-cache, apt-get, etc. Why is this and can you mix and match from distros?
The two biggest "differences" between distros is the kernel and the package manager. A package manager is designed to help you install and resolve dependancies of packages that you want. Some distros are based on larger, more mature ones (such as Debian) which allows that distro to use some already available repositories (places where packages are kept for easy retrieval). It is best not to mix the repositories unless there is good documentation that suggests it is ok. As for the graphical and command line tools, you often can interchange the tools, depending on which distro you are using.

Obviously most distros will be able to use the source code if you want to compile your programs, but it becomes increasingly difficult to use both source code and package managers to maintain a good and stable system.

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Old 05-25-2007, 12:30 PM   #8
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[edit] removed, sorry [/edit]

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Old 05-25-2007, 01:35 PM   #9
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besides gentoo you might want to look at arch linux. its starts you off with a very basic install and then you can install packages much like gentoo, but they are binary, so you dont have to wait for them to compile.

You also might want to take a look at FreeBSD
 
  


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