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Old 10-30-2013, 08:00 AM   #46
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No, it is not. I specifically asked for a valid reason to run a whole GUI as root and have given advice for the reasons that came up how they can be avoided. If you feel that this thread needs moderator action feel free to report it, so that a moderator (which won't be me, by the way) can have a look at it.
My apologies As the title was "I need to log in as root in GUI (Debian)" and we had diverted to how to do (some things) without using a Root GUI I thought it was being Hijacked.
However I bow to you as a Moderator and will certainly not be reporting the thread
 
Old 10-31-2013, 12:54 PM   #47
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I agree that the thread should not have been resurrected. In fact, I posted a criticism of the action immediately after it happened.
Why do you not believe in free speech.

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However, when people give bad advice, especially dangerous advice, it is appropriate to counter it.
Who says it is bad or dangerous advice?

Actually advice was not called for the OP requested information. If you thing the proposed action is unwise, say so but still give the information if you have it.

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Regardless if the people doing it are ignorant or are trolls. If left unchecked, there could be consequences.
You are an expert on deciding who are ignorant or are trolls are you. Or is your definition merely someone who holds a different view to you.

Perhaps you should consider that when people ask odd questions (ones you consider dangerous) they have thought of the consequences and intend to take adequate precautions they just do not feel the need to give a long explanation why they want the info, how they are going to use it and any other (what you think are )relevant justifications.

By all means voice your concerns but do not condemn without knowing the facts, do not expect people to bow to your superior attitude and shower you with their reasons.
 
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:08 PM   #48
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Why do you not believe in free speech.
Do you not believe in free will?

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Who says it is bad or dangerous advice?
Anyone who cares about security.

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Actually advice was not called for the OP requested information. If you thing the proposed action is unwise, say so but still give the information if you have it.
What is this? If someone asks for advice on how to accomplish something that you know is not good but you do so anyway then you're culpable with regards to the outcome.

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You are an expert on deciding who are ignorant or are trolls are you. Or is your definition merely someone who holds a different view to you.
What gives you the right to say someone is arrogant then?

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Perhaps you should consider that when people ask odd questions (ones you consider dangerous) they have thought of the consequences and intend to take adequate precautions they just do not feel the need to give a long explanation why they want the info, how they are going to use it and any other (what you think are )relevant justifications.
Life doesn't work like that.

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By all means voice your concerns but do not condemn without knowing the facts, do not expect people to bow to your superior attitude and shower you with their reasons.
Basically if someone needs to know this type of information they will know other ways of achieving the desired result. There I have voiced my concerns, I will now go further. Your double standards are immense ,your hypocrisy huge, and your arrogance beyond compare. Do not expect people to sit on your laurels and give out bad advice just because you think it is a good idea. I hope you don't think this way with regards to all life's situations. At what level would you stop giving bad advice?
 
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:09 PM   #49
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You need to re-read my posts.

I do not expect people to give out bad advice. Good advice not DICTATES

Generally I don't give advice just suggestions.

Most things that are dangerous are also extremely useful in the right hands.

On the real scale of things guns are dangerous not using a GUI as root. Get real!

As for hypocrisy and arrogance - look in the mirror!

[mod_edit]chomp[/mod_edit]

And as for throwing stones - I have a habit of returning the favour.

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Old 10-31-2013, 05:45 PM   #50
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You need to re-read my posts.

I do not expect people to give out bad advice. Good advice not DICTATES

Generally I don't give advice just suggestions.

Most things that are dangerous are also extremely useful in the right hands.

On the real scale of things guns are dangerous not using a GUI as root. Get real!

As for hypocrisy and arrogance - look in the mirror!

...

And as for throwing stones - I have a habit of returning the favour.
ncmoody, I don't need to re-read anything. You did a thread dig and made a comment about the previous poster (who posted 20 months before you) being arrogant. What was the point of that?

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In my vast, but to you no doubt irrelevant experience,
Are you trying to be impressive or play the victim?

I never said anything about "dangerous" advice, others have but I haven't.

Good joke about Australians and New Zealanders. You like to get personal don't you? first others are arrogant, then you vastly experienced, then you launch into people about attitudes, and now your talking about peoples brains being kicked in. I wish I was as perfect as you.

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:43 PM   #51
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Why do you not believe in free speech.
First; irrelevent.
Second; criticism and condemnation are not the same.
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Who says it is bad or dangerous advice?
Perhaps people who know?
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Actually advice was not called for the OP requested information. If you thing the proposed action is unwise, say so but still give the information if you have it.
I propose you conduct an experiment in logic. Extend that line of reasoning and see what the result is. For example; Someone wants to know the best technique to hold a bottle of beer while driving a car. Would you respond with, "Driving while intoxicated is a bad idea, but the best way to do what you want is ..."?
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You are an expert on deciding who are ignorant or are trolls are you. Or is your definition merely someone who holds a different view to you.
First; I made a general comment. There was no mention of who the trolls are.
Second; You were the one who said people who advise against using the GUI as root are trolls. In other words, trolls are people with different opinions than you have. Your level of hypocrisy is astonding.
 
Old 10-31-2013, 06:47 PM   #52
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Guys, can you please keep the personal attacks out of this, and the technical
aspects of the thread as a primary focus? If you can't manage to behave in a
civil way I'll have to (temporarily?) close the thread.


Thanks,
Tink
 
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:03 PM   #53
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If the thread will be locked, might as well do it now. Considering the personalities (or personality) involved, the thread will not improve.
 
Old 10-31-2013, 07:26 PM   #54
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Guys, can you please keep the personal attacks out of this, and the technical
aspects of the thread as a primary focus? If you can't manage to behave in a
civil way I'll have to (temporarily?) close the thread.


Thanks,
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Hi Tinkster
Considering this thread is years old and hasn't, until this last week, had any input for 20 months and the input that got this thread going again was a personal attack it is probably a good thing to close it (permanently) anyway.
 
  


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