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Old 07-05-2004, 12:33 AM   #1
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Cool I need some Kernel Advise


Can I skip kernel versions?

I currently use 2.4.22-1.2115.nptlsmp

I want to upgrade to the newest version, 2.67 ( I think). Is it trouble, or simple for the simple minded? I like to think I fall somewhere in there, because I do miss the simple things some times. I am getting better and I am starting to like the way linux works more and more as I learn it.

Any advise?

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I currently use a 2.8HT intel P4 w/ CT-9CJS motherboard.
Radeon 9600SL 256mb video
1GB ram
160GB HD
160GB USB HD

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Old 07-05-2004, 01:27 AM   #2
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There can occur some problems when upgrading 2.4->2.6 .
these are resolvable but mostly require experience.

anyway installing new kernel does'nt have to mean replacing old one. you can install it next to old one.

so you can always try and also keep wellworking kernel.
 
Old 07-05-2004, 02:19 AM   #3
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Question Kernel Kernel who has the Kernel

I am wondering then would it be better just to upgrade to FC2, I understand FC2 has newer Kernel? Then maybe upgrade the Kernel to 2.67??? I am under the impression the newer the Kernel the newer the drivers are??? As I have said earlier, I have a CT-9CJS motherboard from Chaintech (Zenith). I would love to use the bells and whistles on this board. It would make a extremely nice upgrade to the normal boards because of the throughput and FSB of 800mhz and the On-Board 7.1 channel audioSPDIF.


Any advise is always listened to.

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Old 07-05-2004, 02:25 AM   #4
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I'd go with the distro upgrade... I did it here with mdk 9.2 -> mdk 10... Major kernel upgrades often need a lot of extra packages upgraded as well.
 
Old 07-05-2004, 11:27 AM   #5
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Talking Thanks for the Memories FC1

I wish I could say FC1 was great

All fairness, FC1 is great for older machines, but I have found out () that I need the newer drivers for my toys. So FC1 wasn't the right answer. I found that FC1 is for the most part a very easy distro to install and operate.

I am currently downloading FC2 WITH A 512k satellite link. Very Slow.


Thanks amosf


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Old 07-06-2004, 11:43 AM   #6
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Talking At Last A Kernel with @#$%^

Updated my Distro to FC2 and then updated my Kernel to 2.66.

I have only 2 problems right now:

1.) How do I uninstall my 2.65 Kernel.

2.) How do I get a mp3 (XMM can't play MP3's and I am upset over it.) player for my linux.


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Old 07-06-2004, 12:05 PM   #7
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Uninstalling a kernel is easy. Delete vmlinuz-<version>, initrd-<version>, and System.map-<version> from /boot. Delete the directory /lib/modules/<version> and it's contents. (<version> means the kernel version number you want to get rid of, leave any other versions alone.) Edit out the menu section for that kernel from your bootloader config file.

Actually, I usually just edit the config file, in my case /boot/grub/menu.lst. Unless you really need the hd space it's safer.

As to mp3's in xmms, there is a plugin available. Check the xmms site. Rh doesn't ship it for some imagined legal reasons.

Last edited by kevinalm; 07-06-2004 at 12:07 PM.
 
Old 07-06-2004, 02:25 PM   #8
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Unhappy Kernel Wows

Thanks you kevinalm; that answers the questions. I have some small concerns:

Quote:
Uninstalling a kernel is easy. Delete vmlinuz-<version>, initrd-<version>, and System.map-<version> from /boot. Delete the directory /lib/modules/<version> and it's contents. (<version> means the kernel version number you want to get rid of, leave any other versions alone.) Edit out the menu section for that kernel from your bootloader config file.
Can you explain what these commands do. I am not converted over to linux completely yet so as I go I want to understand what and why I am doing things.

I am concerned I might use the wrong switches on these commands.

vmlinux -<2.65........>
initrd -<2.65........>
System.map - <2.65.......>


I understand why the delete /lib/modules/<version>.

this is the first time I will use these commands and I don't want to be
crashing my system if possible.
 
Old 07-06-2004, 04:18 PM   #9
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Those aren't commands, they are file and directories that need to be removed. Using kernel version 2.4.25 as an example, here's what happened when the kernel was installed:

The following files were placed in /boot like this:

/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.25 (this is the kernel)
/boot/System.map-2.4.25
/boot/initrd-2.4.25 (not always used, some systems may not have this file)


The directory /lib/modules/2.4.25 was created and filled with modules for this kernel.

The boot configuration file was given an entry to add this kernel to the boot menu. For grub, this file is usually /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst.


You would use the rm command to delete the installed files and directory and an editor to change grub.conf/menu.lst. Try:

man rm

to learn about the rm command.
 
Old 07-06-2004, 04:32 PM   #10
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thanks kevinalm, that is some of the most helpful info I have gotten so far.


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