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Old 04-20-2009, 07:39 PM   #1
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I need a microscope to see Firefox


Hi! I just downloaded and installed Fedora-10. I opened Firefox, and the print is so tiny I literally need a microscope to read it. Even the login box on here is minuscule. I went to the appearance box, and changed the font sizes, but that turns out to just be on the desktop. Even the icons on Firefox are barely visible. In windows, you just right click the desktop, and then you can change the settings for appearance and read info on the video card. What can I do to change this? My mouse pointer is so small, it took me a while to find it. Also, can anybody tell me where to find a tutorial on Fedora? Please don't say the Fedora Project---I've spent 2 hours trying to find a tutorial there. I found them, but they are sadly lacking. I'm new to linux, and I don't know how to do anything in it. I can open the menu at the top and click there to start programs, but don't know how to use the directories or the terminals or basically anything else. Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-20-2009, 07:45 PM   #2
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Is it just firefox? What graphics card are you using? Do other programs do the same thing?

What happens when you click Ctrl-Plus? (also under view->zoom)

It's possible that a proprietary driver would work better (though not a sure deal...) the thing is, they go against the fedora philosophy...
 
Old 04-20-2009, 07:55 PM   #3
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Just on the assumption that perhaps it is a driver issue, I'd suggest heading to http://rpmfusion.org/. Here you will find proprietary display drivers, plus a wide range of useful software that doesn't fit directly with Fedora's philosophy.

HTH
 
Old 04-20-2009, 10:41 PM   #4
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Hi! Thanks for the responses. It happens in all applications, so it's definitely a driver problem. I can press ctrl + over and over and over to enlarge the page. I went to rpm fusion and installed it (I think), at least it said it installed. I installed the graphical version, but can't find it. I also clicked on the link for drivers, and it only showed nvidia drivers. My video card is an ati radeon x600 pro. I googled and came up with the amd site. I guess amd bought ati? Anywho, they said they were discontinuing the individual legacy drivers, and had a 9.3 classical driver pack, which I downloaded, but in further investigation it said it wouldn't work with fedora downloaded after February. It said the 9.4 version would. I googled and found the 9.4, but linux wasn't included in the operating systems. So I'm at a loss at what to do next. I tried the fedora forum and couldn't register since they wanted me to identify a picture from a group of pictures, but every selection I made, I was told I was wrong and to try again. So I just sent a somewhat nasty e-mail to them. I'm about ready to deep six fedora for good. I'm not sure if I can use rpm fusion to find the driver, especially since I don't know how to use it. Thanks.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 04:37 AM   #5
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see this how to for ATI cards BUT there ARE NO legacy drivers for fedora 9 ,10 and 11 for ATI .
" Howto for fglrx (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion "
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:49 AM   #6
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Thanks for the response. It seems fedora exists solely as a test kitchen for redhat. As redhat is commercial, it further appears that they are setting up their software to work only with certain manufacturers' hardware. Bad move. I can't remember the computer company name from years ago that went proprietary for their hardware, but they went belly up. I get a vague recollection that it started with a Q. Oh well, I digress. So much for fedorahat. Which linux distro would you recommend? I want to learn linux, but I really don't want to be tied to the command prompt to do everything. Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 11:40 AM   #7
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Check out www.distrowatch.com and look at the top of the distro list on the right side for the most common ones.

The favorite ones for lots of people getting started seems to be Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Mandriva, and probably some others I will get flamed for not mentioning. My personal favorite is Mandriva, which has a new version coming out in about a week. I have tried all the ones I mentioned and they seem to all handle my hardware correctly out of the box.

Lot of people start making decisions based on their favorite Desktop Environment. If you start developing a preference for KDE, GNOME, or XFCE (and others), it could be helpful to choose distros that use your favorite as default, i.e. Ubuntu for GNOME, OpenSUSE or Mandrive for KDE, Xubuntu for XFCE, etc.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 12:58 PM   #8
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Thanks for the response. I was just looking at the redhat site to see if there was any info on video cards, but I can't decipher it to find any. Am I right in assuming that if the ati card doesn't work in fedora, it won't work in redhat? I was thinking of going whole hog and learning redhat for certification. I can put the server, again I'm assuming, on another computer that has a nvidia GeForce 8400 GS video card, but I don't want to have to buy a new video card for the other computer to run a redhat desktop for the network exercises. Is there any work around for this, other than buying a new video card? Also, I noticed that any hardware references are for intel systems. I'm running AMD. Is that a problem. Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 01:28 PM   #9
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Hi! An addendum to my previous post. I was looking around for info on redhat, and found that Centos is the same enterprise server. If that's so, would I have the same video card problem? I'm sifting through the Centos site now to see if there is a hardware list, but no luck so far. To do the redhat certification, I guess I still need to run a redhat desktop for the network exercises. If the Centos runs with the ati video card, I could put the server on that computer, and the desktop on the nvidia one. One more question (for now anyway), does the redhat 5 enterprise distro also have the desktop distro, or is that something else---like redhat 10 or 11? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 03:49 PM   #10
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it further appears that they are setting up their software to work only with certain manufacturers' hardware
ATI was a MS windows outfit for SO long , before AMD bought them , that it will BE YEARS before they catch up to nvidia with Open GL . Nvidia fully supports GL 2.2 ,ATI mostly supports GL 1.4 . Also ATI has not made , or will rebuild, there old drivers to use the NEW Xorg . Fedora 8 was the last version to use the old xorg
 
Old 04-23-2009, 03:31 PM   #11
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Hi~ I'm reopening this discussion since I installed fedora on a different computer. Same results. This computer has a nvidia 8400 gs video card. I went to nvidia and found and downloaded the driver. To install it is says,
Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run" to install the driver. Do I open a terminal and type this? if so, then what. Is there any configuration I have to do? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Old 04-23-2009, 03:37 PM   #12
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I almost forgot. If I am to type that command in a terminal, do I first type cd\downloads
as that is the directory name that the file is in? I'm looking up linux commands, but as yet I don't know them. Thanks.
 
Old 04-23-2009, 04:10 PM   #13
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Blakes7 to install the nvidia driver USE YUM do not use the nvidia.run

see the fedora how to page for installing the kmod-nvidia driver
" F10 & F9 Nvidia driver guides"
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752

also that is THE WRONG .run driver
for your card this is the one
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...32_180.51.html
 
Old 04-23-2009, 04:52 PM   #14
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If your fonts are way too small, or way too big, I suggest your Dots Per Inch (DPI) is incorrectly set.

See this thread for how to set your DPI manually in xorg.conf:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post3515097

Then restart X (or logout, then login again).
 
Old 04-23-2009, 07:17 PM   #15
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unfortunately fedora 10 dose not make a xorg.conf ( by default ) one must be made . Either by installing the ati or nvidia driver .or if using intel,vesa, 2d nv then display-config must be ran .After installing it in fedora 10
 
  


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