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Old 08-12-2010, 10:08 AM   #1
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Question I just want to know can i get a job?


Hi everybody, I am new to this forum.

I finished my Bachelor's degree in Electronics and communication engineering in 2007. I finished RHCE in 12th July 2010. I don't have any work experience in the field of linux. Previously i had been working in knowledge processioning outsourcing which is completely not related to the field of linux. I have no experience in the field of linux. I have also finished CCNA in 2008.
I have no experience to what I have studied.

Can I get a job as a linux administrator? If I want to get a job what are the necessary things should i do?

I looking for a job in Bangalore, India. Please help me.
 
Old 08-12-2010, 10:37 AM   #2
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With no experience in Linux, it is my opinion (opinion only) that you would be shooting yourself in the foot if you were to accept a job as a Linux Admin, despite having completed the RHCE. It seems there are MANY people around on the internet who claim to be RHCE's and Linux Admins (and flash around all sorts of credentials), but who show evidence that they don't know a Linux OS from a hole in the ground. It makes me question the value of RHCE, or perhaps I should question whether these people actually studied, or did they just copy/paste their test answers from the internet.

There are some posts/threads around LQ where folks who actually work in the Linux related field(s), and some of whom allegedly do the hiring or hiring-advising at their companies, have written that experience is more important than certificates and credentials. You'd need to hear from some folks who live in India, to get an idea how this scenario looks in your country, so I'll not advise about that.

Anyhow, if Linux Admin is your goal, and you are comfortable with what you know from your CCNA course and have gained knowledge from the RHCE course, the first step is to have yourself a Linux OS of your own, that you can experiment with, learn with, and break & fix, and most importantly, to put what you've learned into daily practice so that you don't forget what you know - that happens very easily.. Only you will know if/when you are able enough to do any particular job that is offered to you. I suggest looking for an entry-level assistant admin position, or networking assistant, or this sort of thing - and one which will provide you training on their systems and equipment. Getting in over your head will not help you at all.

Popular Linux OS's used in companies, include RHEL, CentOS, SuSE/Novell, and Debian. If most companies you're looking at use a particular OS, try to focus your practices on that OS, while still understanding fundamentals that apply to all OS's. Install these yourself - play with them.

You'll probably want some (at least) basic abilities with databases, like MySQL and PostGRE-SQL. You'll definitely want to be very comfortable with the shell and better-than-basic shell scripting, as this is an important part of getting both large and small one-off admin tasks accomplished to-order. Familiarize yourself with Apache webserver & PHP installation, configuration and maintenance.

Well, that's about it from me - other LQ members who work in the field, and members who do live in India, will likely have more info to add or suggestions to make which will be specific to the job market in your country.. But this is where I'd start.

Best of success, whatever you do.

Sasha
 
Old 08-12-2010, 10:37 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by stoneheart13 View Post
Hi everybody, I am new to this forum.

I finished my Bachelor's degree in Electronics and communication engineering in 2007. I finished RHCE in 12th July 2010. I don't have any work experience in the field of linux. Previously i had been working in knowledge processioning outsourcing which is completely not related to the field of linux. I have no experience in the field of linux. I have also finished CCNA in 2008.
I have no experience to what I have studied.

Can I get a job as a linux administrator? If I want to get a job what are the necessary things should i do?

I looking for a job in Bangalore, India. Please help me.
Help you with what??

You say you have zero experience in Linux, but wnat to get a job as a Linux administrator? How do you think that will go? Kind of like wanting a job as a Formula 1 race car driver, when you don't know how to drive.

You seem to have paper certificates, which (in this part of the world), mean next to nothing, for the most part. If you want a job in ANY field, you need experience and knowledge IN that field. Want to learn Linux?? You say you've got an RHCE...so what's stopping you from loading it at your house, and learning?

Get knowledge and experience, and you can then apply for a low-level tech support job. A real sysadmin needs years of experience.
 
Old 08-12-2010, 11:18 AM   #4
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I think one of the things you need to do as with any worth while job... is climb the ladder! You simply don't have what it takes to be a Linux Administrator with where you are at and that much is simple to state from what you have said. This is no offense to yourself but it's a position that more then anything else requires vast experience and knowledge of Linux. More so however you are actually asking us to look for a job FOR you? even if I knew of such a job in Bangalore, the last thing I would be doing is offering it to some random person of the Internet that actually, clearly has no understanding of Linux. I advise you go play with Linux for 5 years and maybe get a job where you have to WORK with Linux... (and yes those jobs exist, I am in such a job as I am a Lead Technician in a Datacenter) then maybe you'd be ready to be applying for such jobs. Right now I doubt you'd even know the first place to start looking if I said I needed to add a virtual host on my server... and it's a fairly basic piece of knowledge relating to Apache... there are probably hundreds of such examples I could bring up but that would essentially be a waste of time.

"processioning outsourcing" can you clarify what you mean by this... processioning I am doubting is the word you actually mean...

P.S. I might be slightly harsher then normal in this response, but the business world is different to that of the self-proclaimed newbies that usually just want help with what they don't know, rather then trying to get a job in an area they clearly don't know... the business world by it's very nature is harsh.

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Old 08-12-2010, 11:23 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by stoneheart13 View Post
Hi everybody, I am new to this forum.

I finished my Bachelor's degree in Electronics and communication engineering in 2007. I finished RHCE in 12th July 2010. I don't have any work experience in the field of linux. Previously i had been working in knowledge processioning outsourcing which is completely not related to the field of linux. I have no experience in the field of linux. I have also finished CCNA in 2008.
I have no experience to what I have studied.

Can I get a job as a linux administrator? If I want to get a job what are the necessary things should i do?

I looking for a job in Bangalore, India. Please help me.
The studies you had I think were more difficult than learning Linux. I think you just need to learn it also... scholastically. There are lots of guides, tutorials and howtos on the web. Don't be afraid to try and learn them. They're not as difficult as most people say. I also suggest that you examine plain and simple distros like Slackware, and especially LFS.
 
Old 08-12-2010, 11:27 AM   #6
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here...

first, I wouldn't be as categorical as to compare administrator's job to f1 pilot's driving. They are of different complexity and different pay levels, should I say. I also wouldn't diminish value of real RH certification as it takes diligence to complete. The question asked was, how to get on a boat, let me address it.
You can start as a junior SA, supervised by more senior person, this way you will learn the ways of doing things in a real world (along with his misconceptions). After a year or two, you should go to another place, also as a junior, so you could pick experience from someone else again. You see, different people follow different solution patterns and more you pick, so better you career chances are.
After few years, if you really are motivated and been learning all this time, you will posses both experience and knowledge for taking full responsibility as the system administrator.

It is not a rocket science. It is procedure regulated, and I saw hordes of 'not so bright' system administrators, who still have a job. Unless you are going as a SA for very dynamic environment, with constant inflow of new servers, solution and technologies, the SA job may be quiet one, with very limited lists of day-to-day responsibilities.

Also don't be discouraged by people. A real system administrator doesn't care too much of other opinions. It is based on what YOU think is technically correct, and YOUR ability to prove and provide the solution. There are things, you can't learn, thought, like engineering talent, or you have it, or you don't. If you don't no amount of training will compensate. It is like in singing, training can improve things if you got voice, but if you don't have a voice... you will be writing the operation procedure guidelines ... ) I'm just joking...

hope it helps

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Old 08-12-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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stoneheart13: hang in there buddy, becoming a Linux System Admin takes time, you'll need to start somewhere.

As others here have suggested you should install linux on your PC and then star learning from there. You've done RHCE recently so you might have those concepts fresh in mind. You could practice those on your PC.

Get some Virtualization Software like VMWare or VirtualBox(free)...they'll let you install other OSes without having to format your hard disk...install as many distributions as you can lay your hands on...this'll help you understand the installation process better than just reading any book will ever do.

Use CentOS (since you've done RHCE), its better than using an unregistered version of RHEL.Try Debian, OpenSUSE etc on your VirtualBox(or VMWare, or even QEMU or any of the others)

subscribe to mailing lists related to linux sys administration, i don't know any but google does. read the forums, you'll get to learn a lot.

good luck...always remember that hardly anything worth achieving is ever achieved without hard work.


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As others have suggested, try to get an entry level job first and then move up the ladder...something like a Linux Support Engineer job...Good luck

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Old 08-12-2010, 12:09 PM   #8
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Can I get a job as a linux administrator? If I want to get a job what are the necessary things should i do?
Learn bash and perl this is definalty a starting point in Linux Admin. Maybe not perl so much but learn bash and how to use the terminal, like doing simple things like changing permissions on a file to configuring iptables and always remember to use the man pages, man pages are your friend, well sometimes.
 
Old 08-13-2010, 08:56 AM   #9
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did they just copy/paste their test answers from the internet
Just an FYI: RHCE is a 100% hands on setup/fix this system exam; no books, or connection to the internet. You actually have to know what to do in a limited time. Only the std installed man pages and not even them on the 'won't boot' part.
No paper qns/answers either.
Doesn't make you a guru but, as exams go it's pretty solid.
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:01 AM   #10
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Hi,

This is posted all the time here on LQ. A Search here on LQ will get loads of information: Want to peruse serious Linux Administration is just one.

Want to peruse serious Linux Administration is for your locale so maybe some insight can be garnished. Please Search for others.

Linux User Groups is a World list of LUGs that may provide a group locally that may aid further in your quest.

Most Engineering graduates do have some experience(s) with UNIX here in the U.S.A. but I cannot speak for yours as no graduate information(s). Sure most don't admin but do learn to use a UNIX system along with tools. Sometimes at the command level but most are using packaged Apps via 'X'. Some students drift into admin but those are very unique. Mentored a few but most students only wanted to get through school the easy way: 'Do it for me' or 'Show me enough to get by'. While others would challenge and learn from the experience(s).

stoneheart13, you will need to start out somewhere. Look at starting with GNU/Linux as your freshman year with Linux. You will need to learn the basics first before you can implement anything advanced. The curve is not that steep at first, just a little up hill and flattens as you understand things through progressive work on your part. At one point you will decide if Admin is the 'niche' or more interest in other areas from developed knowledge.

You've been given a lot of useful information. Hopefully the quest is only beginning for you!

Just a few more links to aid you;

Linux Documentation Project
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
Linux Command Guide
Ultimate Linux Newbie Guide
LinuxSelfHelp
Getting Started with Linux
Bash Reference Manual
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
Linux Home Networking
Virtualiation- Top 10


The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:12 AM   #11
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I finished my Bachelor's degree in Electronics and communication engineering in 2007. I finished RHCE in 12th July 2010.
So you are a degree man, yet a jobless one, why? What university granted you that diploma?

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I have no experience in the field of linux.
So how did you pass that RHCE? Bribed it? {sorry for that joke}

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I have also finished CCNA in 2008.
I have no experience to what I have studied.
you'd better start using linux and become a newbie here.

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Can I get a job as a linux administrator? If I want to get a job what are the necessary things should i do?
You cannot. You must learn first how to be a linux administrator.
 
  


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