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Old 01-31-2011, 08:48 PM   #1
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OK. I Unfortunatly am a Windows user. I have been using an old PC running Windows Server 2003 to serve a few Non-Profit Organisations websites. However I Have Decided to expand my horizons and have purchased 2 SUPERMICRO SYS-5015A-PHF Servers. After having been hacked 4-5 times with windows server 2003, i have decided to set up these two new servers with Ubuntu 10.10 Server Edition, And Webmin. However, try as i might, I Cant Seem to get anything to work. i am essentially trying to use one as a web server and one as a mail server and set them up as webmin clusters. Any help or suggestions on how to get my feet off the ground with this would be great. I Am a quick leaner as well so if anyone has any guides or tut on how to do any of this, i would be more than willing to check them out.

Thanx,
JL Griffin
 
Old 01-31-2011, 09:02 PM   #2
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Hi,

What actually is not working.

Did you successfully installed Unbuntu?
Do you have issues with webmin installation or configuration?

I'd suggest using exim as MTA for the mail server.
 
Old 01-31-2011, 09:34 PM   #3
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goodhombre, Sorry about the vagueness. I installed ubuntu 10.10 Server Edition Successfully, and i also installed webmin successfully. Both are working fine as far as functioning properly, i just cannot get apache to server my websites, and webmin comes with postfix mail server automatically and i cant seem to get that configured correctly (add users/mailboxes). Additionally i do not have the knowhow to configure some other mail server software AND get it to work with webmin...

Additionally, This is the former setup:

internet->Modem->Router->Eth Switch->PC2(WinSrv. 2k3) & 5 Home PCs(WinXP)

PC1=DNS Server, Active directory server, Mail Server (hMail Server), Web Server (IIS)

I would Like To Have A Similar Setup Except i would like to have one server run web server and one run mail server, and i have converted all but one of my 5 PCs to Linux Ubuntu (& LUbuntu). I Have No idea where to start. I have installed Bind DNS, Apache, Samba, Postfix, and some ftpclient only because they were the only ones offered in webmin (Onto The Server). I Cannot get the server configured to do any of the things i mentioned above. I Cant even find an option for a domain controller role or a dhcp server, and as i mentioned, apache wont server my sites though webmin says that its running... Im sure im doing something wrong as i have only been experimenting with linux for about a month now. Any Suggestions You may have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx,
JL Griffin
 
Old 01-31-2011, 09:37 PM   #4
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Hi,

Welcome to LQ!

Lot to bite off for a newbie, even using Ubuntu!

You can look at the logs in '/var/log' for errors. Plus look at 'dmesg' output. You will get an idea of what is and is not working from the logs, hopefully.

Below you will find a link for 'RUTE', a good tutorial to get acquainted with Gnu/Linux.

For future reference, I suggest that you look at 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' so in the future your queries provide information that will aid us in diagnosis of the problem/queries.



Just a few more links to aid you to gaining some understanding. Sure some may seem beyond a newbie but you must start somewhere;



Linux Documentation Project
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
Linux Command Guide
Utimate Linux Newbie Guide
LinuxSelfHelp
Bash Beginners Guide
Bash Reference Manual
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
Linux Home Networking



The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!



EDIT: Look at the 'Server' section of 'Slackware-Links'

Last edited by onebuck; 01-31-2011 at 09:41 PM. Reason: add link for server section
 
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:00 PM   #5
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I can't give you advice on your difficulty setting up a server, but rather for getting used to Linux.

The thing about Linux that confused me the most was the filesystem. I was looking for C:, D:, etc and just didn't know what to do. Here is a brief wiki article giving a general overview of the file system hierarchy in Unix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesys...archy_Standard

Reading it helped me immensely.

Ubuntu is backed by Canonical Ltd. You may consider purchasing technical support from them (or requesting a free 30 day trial, by the looks of it).

http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-...antage/support
 
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:11 PM   #6
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Onebuck, & eveningsky339,
Thank You So Much! I Will Definately will check out those links. eveningsky, yeah, the file system is so differant, and the whole no gui for the server edition kinda threw me off as well, but apt-get install ubuntu-desktop installed gnome but it still wouldnt let me admin all the server stuff. thats why i reinstalled ubuntu (cause i couldnt figure out how to uninstall gnome. lol) and decided to go with webmin. Anways, Thanx for all the links!

JL Griffin
 
Old 02-01-2011, 01:31 AM   #7
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Hi griffinwebnet,

For virtual domains hosting and management you can install Virtualmin module.
Using it you will be able to set up dns, ftp accounts easily using webmin.

If you want to install webmin on the mail server too then you are right, you have to deal with postfix.
Before I suggested to install minimum required software for mail server and exim MTA.
Then you can set virtual domains MX records to point to mail server.

Actually it is not so complicated but you need lot of patience to accomplish this as a beginner.

If you have any questions please let me know.

Last edited by goodhombre; 02-01-2011 at 03:43 AM.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:19 PM   #8
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Hey Guys, Thnks for all the links and tips. You were correct, i kind of just needed a baseline knowledge of the basics of linux to get me off of my feet. ALL of the articles were EXTREMELY Helpful. I guess what deterred me in the past with this research was that i couldn't find one tutoral or "linux basics" article (Or more accurately several connected articles) with all the stuff in it (Wouldn't that be a dream if that existed. lol). More accurately, i would be interested in something but then the article would end and i wouldn't know what to search next to supplement what i had just read. so it was like a breath of fresh air to have a list of things to read that all fit together and answered most of my basic questions. Once i got a simple baselne knowledge of bash commands i was able to do the rudimentary basics like go from folder to folder (By the way, thanx for the article explaining the basic linux file structure. That helped me out SOOO much!). Also, i did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10 server Edtion (Cause i couldnt figure out how to undo the damage i may have done by tinkering. lol)and didn't install webmin and gnome. after some research, i have decided to go with an open source control panel called ISPConfig, because it allows Server Administration, as well as client control panels that automate the process of adding ftp accounts, we-based file management, mailbox creation, etc. and it has support for up to 999 servers on one farm (Not that i would need that many. lol. but it will allow me to make the other server a mail server, and it has alot of neat features). I Am not using it to completely administer the servers, i am actually using putty to connect to the command line of both servers via ssh.

Anyway, Thank You All For The Help. Ill post again in a few hours when i have finished setting up ISPConfig3 to let you know if i got everything working alright. <BTW, Yes i have a tutorial for it. lol. I wouldnt run headfirst into that without any guidance. lol>

JL Griffin
 
Old 02-03-2011, 12:29 AM   #9
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OK ALL,

I Got it to work! The ISP Config works great. It took awhile to get running because of all the pre requisites that had to be installed via sudo apt-get before you can even install it. however, now apache serves my sites, emails go in and out and it works with both my servers!

However, I Just Ordered a third server earlier today and i need it to act as a domain controller. Fo example, i have 5 computers in my house as well as my wife and kids laptops. All of them are connected to my home domain [griffhome.local]. i just need a domain controller so that my family can login to the server for both the linux ubuntu machines and the winxp/7 ones. I Heard that you might be able to do this with samba, however i havnt had any success trying to make it work on an old machine that ive been experimenting with while i wait for the new server. Any help would be great. Thanx.

-JL Griffin
 
  


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