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Old 05-08-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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I have a server motherboard, should I install x64 Ubuntu 13.x Server or Desktop.


I have a Super Micro H8QM8E server motherboard with 4x AMD Opteron 8423's @ 2.0Ghz, 16Gig's of ram and have the option of running PATA or SATA drives. I only want to get it setup so that I can run folding at home. During installation of Ubuntu 11,12,and 13 Desktop distro's, my only option is to install to an IDE hard drive. I have a SATA drive installed,working, and is seen under Windows Server 2008 R2. I was able to install Ubuntu 13.04 onto an old 20Giger that I had laying around. Even after the installation, it still would not see the sata drive?? The chipset is based off the NForce 570 Multimedia Communications Processer but is called a NVidia 3600 Professional MCP when used on a server motherboard. Super Micro does not have Ubuntu drivers for the motherboard. Should I install Ubuntu 13.x server version and hope that it has the required drivers or is the server and desktop the same?????
Also the 20-giger died after a few hours, so it will be a full install again.

Any Help Is Appreciated ... Thank You For Your Time

At the Battle Of The Chosin Reservoir Korea 1950: When the 1st Marine Division was surrounded by 10 Chinese Divisions, a news reported asked Gen Smith about his upcoming retreat, in-which he replied " Retreat Hell - Were just attacking in a different direction.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 04:03 PM   #2
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hate to say this but if you are going to run F@H, instal win7 64 bit and the F@H GPU Client. you will see much better results. F@H has yet to produce a GPU client for Linux.

If you are ever going to use the system for anything else, then it really does not matter, but id avoid Ubuntu and its entire line due to the malware they place in their GUI.

Run CentOS for server or Fedora or Debian for desktop.
 
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:25 PM   #3
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Dear Sir,

Is CentOS like VMware??? I had looked in that direction but was stopped as it only supports 8cores for the guest os. Fedora or Debian are also a Linux build???? F@H has a Quick Return Bonus on points and the ones with the big points all run core a5. This core is not yet compatible with windows and is only available to Linux users right now. I got one of the big work units last night, estimated completion time was 1.75 days with an estimated 216000 point's. Theses work unit's are only given out to computers with a min of 16cores.

Thank You For Your Time

At the Battle Of The Chosin Reservoir Korea 1950: When the 1st Marine Division was surrounded by 10 Chinese Divisions, a news reported asked Gen Smith about his upcoming retreat, in-which he replied " Retreat Hell - Were just attacking in a different direction.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 07:28 PM   #4
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CentOS is a recompile of the RedHat distro from the source code. So it's 100% Red Hat compatible, but doesn't come with support. In all ways except being able to call Red Hat and ask for assistance if something goes wrong, CentOS is Red Hat.

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Old 05-08-2013, 07:31 PM   #5
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Centos is a free version of RedHat Enterprise Linux, so you don't need to worry about VM limits; just run it direct.
 
Old 05-09-2013, 07:02 AM   #6
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I have a Super Micro H8QM8E server motherboard with 4x AMD Opteron 8423's @ 2.0Ghz, 16Gig's of ram and have the option of running PATA or SATA drives. I only want to get it setup so that I can run folding at home. During installation of Ubuntu 11,12,and 13 Desktop distro's, my only option is to install to an IDE hard drive. I have a SATA drive installed,working, and is seen under Windows Server 2008 R2. I was able to install Ubuntu 13.04 onto an old 20Giger that I had laying around. Even after the installation, it still would not see the sata drive?? The chipset is based off the NForce 570 Multimedia Communications Processer but is called a NVidia 3600 Professional MCP when used on a server motherboard. Super Micro does not have Ubuntu drivers for the motherboard. Should I install Ubuntu 13.x server version and hope that it has the required drivers or is the server and desktop the same?????
Also the 20-giger died after a few hours, so it will be a full install again.

Any Help Is Appreciated ... Thank You For Your Time
MCP55Pro chipset from everything I can find on that baord.

Early nVidia chipsets with SATA tend to be dodgy. You should be able to get it working by playing with settings in the BIOS.

BTW, you are aware that ubuntu 13.XX versions only have 9 months support? I wouldnt bother with that amount of time, unles you like being a tester for canonical.... Getting a newer version wont help anyway, its an old chipset.

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hate to say this but if you are going to run F@H, instal win7 64 bit and the F@H GPU Client. you will see much better results. F@H has yet to produce a GPU client for Linux.
Where did you get F@Home on a GPU from? (I really wish that people would put all the info into the 1st post)

With it being an older chipset/CPU setup, and being a sever type board I'd guess the OP isnt running any GPU big enough to worry about Folding on the GPU with...even if it did have a big video card, it would still be outclassed by 4 x 6 core opterons.

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Fedora or Debian are also a Linux build????
Yes, and they are both proud of the fact......unlike ubuntu/canonical.

Debian is even 'GNU/Linux', Fedora is the testing area for Red Hat. Ubuntu, heh, try searching for 'linux' on the ubuntu site. Its barely mentioned, and only mentioned from several years ago.

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Old 05-09-2013, 07:59 AM   #7
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Where did you get F@Home on a GPU from? (I really wish that people would put all the info into the 1st post)

With it being an older chipset/CPU setup, and being a sever type board I'd guess the OP isnt running any GPU big enough to worry about Folding on the GPU with...even if it did have a big video card, it would still be outclassed by 4 x 6 core opterons.
as a Folder of many years i have yet to see an older quad system out perform even a single GT8800 (what a 5 or 6 year old card now) when running on Linux vs windows for GPU v CPU.

with 24 cores that should out perform 2x GT8800 cards, but would have a hard time keeping up any just about any modern PCIe video card. the GPU calculations are just that much more insanely faster then anything running on raw CPU atm.

the OPs board has at least 1x 16x PCIe slot by putting win7 Pro it might still run circles around just the cores in Linux, thus my statement.

still I would run under CentOS if you are going to run under Linux and the CPU for WUs.
 
Old 05-09-2013, 09:33 AM   #8
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Folding at Home will run better on Windows unfortunately. Hard to say this on "the" linux forum. But, the team develops that software for windows.
 
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:34 PM   #9
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as a Folder of many years i have yet to see an older quad system out perform even a single GT8800 (what a 5 or 6 year old card now) when running on Linux vs windows for GPU v CPU.

with 24 cores that should out perform 2x GT8800 cards, but would have a hard time keeping up any just about any modern PCIe video card. the GPU calculations are just that much more insanely faster then anything running on raw CPU atm.

the OPs board has at least 1x 16x PCIe slot by putting win7 Pro it might still run circles around just the cores in Linux, thus my statement.

still I would run under CentOS if you are going to run under Linux and the CPU for WUs.
That might be true but this board has a HTT connector ( to connect another motherboard ) right beside the x16 connector, so running an updated video card is out. It also states in the manual that the x16 slot is not to used with a video card, so I'm stuck with the onboard ATI ES 1000 ( a modified Rage video chipset )
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:10 PM   #10
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Wink I switched from Ubuntu to Debian and there is a differance

I installed CentOS first ( I love the min install for desktop, I will have to play with that) with full desktop and got stuck at the RUF> Command Line. I installed Debian and then F@H software. Under Ubuntu the OS would bounce around the %CPU time for F@H from 85% - 98% and trying to switch priority would sometimes make the situation worse. After Installing Debian and then starting F@H, The OS has been keeping the %CPU time at 98% - 99% for F@H. If It keeps this trend up, I might be able to actually finish a Big Work Unit. Their min time for completion is 2 1/2 days, but when Ubuntu is giving you 1 hour per fold. ( this is not good)

How do you change priority in Debian?? I keep getting "You do not have the right privileges", but during install it said to leave root password blank to give first user the admin rights?????

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