I hate intergrated Hardware!

Tegapath · 02-10-2003, 10:09 PM

So I need some help!

I have a HP Pavilion 761n pc with an MSI built nForce motherboard that has my audio, NIC, and Video built on. I don't use the video though, I have a GForce 4 Ti 4600 for the video. So I have a WinXPHome/RedHat 8 install and I don't have audio or Nic. I have installed the driver packages from nVidea and have disabled p&P OS on my BIOS as suggested by a friend but RH won't find my Nic or sound, even though they have worked with RH before the same distro. Help!

MasterC · 02-10-2003, 10:37 PM

Try looking at lspci -vv. I'm not sure on your level of experience, so if that doesn't help you, post up what that returns, and what you believe to be the model's of your soundcard and Nic. Also, please post up what you get from lsmod, and your /etc/modules.conf

Cool

Tegapath · 02-11-2003, 01:16 AM

ok, so the first two commands that you gave me did nothing, and a friend of mine I asked about it said that RedHat 8 got rid of those commands. I don't know.

The /etc/modules.conf file looked as follows:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias usb-controller usb-ohci
alias sound-slot-1 nvaudio
alias usb-interface usb-ohci

Thats it. Yes I know that it shows my audio, but that doesn't mean it works. The Sound card utility in KDE knows what it is just doesn't know what module to use to make it work.

The specs for my PC can be found here:
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...h07376#P38_490

my board is an Nvidia nForce 420D chipset

the audio is an AC97 Audio

and the NIC is an 10/100BT intergrated

Thats all it tells me!

Thanks for any help or advise you can give!

MasterC · 02-11-2003, 01:21 AM

I highly doubt (yet it's possible) RH would get rid of those commands. Make sure you are root, and make sure you are typing them correctly:
lspci -vv (LSPCI -VV lowercase)
lsmod (LSMOD lowercase)
and as root.

lsmod... I would almost bet my cool new fan that it exists on RH 8.

Cool

Tegapath · 02-11-2003, 02:23 AM

I did each command as root in uper and lower case, and then had a friend do them.

I have had these things working before I re-installed RH8 so I might just re-install again. I will wait a day or so before I do. I am also getting help from other help boards as well.

Thanks for any ideas...........

Tegapath · 02-11-2003, 02:28 AM

ooh, while Im asking questions, is there a better distro I ould be using that would have more support for hardware, and come in ISO format, ftp installs are a pain in the ass with my nick and I have the bandwidth for DL'ing ISOs.

Thanks again~

MasterC · 02-11-2003, 11:39 AM

Well, I'd like to avoid a distro war, however Mandrake does seem to have better luck getting audio to work as it uses ALSA by default and has for quite some time.

The package that would contain lsmod and such is called modutils. See if you can locate such a package (should be part of a minimal install..) and install that.

Good Luck

Cool

Tegapath · 02-12-2003, 02:29 PM

I fixed the network prob but I still have no sound.
I installed the audio drivers from nVidia they didn't work, then I installed OSS (Open Source Sound) program and it was able to use sound in test mode but there is always an error during the test and it stops.

MasterC · 02-12-2003, 02:52 PM

I usually suggest ALSA over OSS.

Did you ever get lspci working? Sad that it isn't on your distro by default, very very sad...

Cool

rnturn · 02-12-2003, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by MasterC
I usually suggest ALSA over OSS. Did you ever get lspci working? Sad that it isn't on your distro by default, very very sad...

Cool

Both lspci and lsmod are available on RH8.0. Even on a fairly minimal install.

Agreed about ALSA over OSS. I couln't get sound to worth worth a darn until I downloaded it and started using it. (Boy, the install process sure got easier in the last year or so.)

MasterC · 02-12-2003, 03:25 PM

Do you have any suggestions as to why they are not working on his setup? Even as root, apparently they are still returning nothing?

Cool

rnturn · 02-12-2003, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by MasterC
Do you have any suggestions as to why they are not working on his setup? Even as root, apparently they are still returning nothing?

No. I thought it might have been that he'd tried to run them as a non-root user but even that works... as long as you prefix everything with `/sbin/'. Dang.

I'd suggest the Red Hat hardware compatibility list but my experience is that it's woefully incomplete and outdated. Not seeing a piece of hardware on their list is not a reliable means of knowing that it's incompatible. In a word: worthless. There are some other hardware-related sites that collect user input on various types of hardware. There was one, in particular, that I was going to recommend but I can't find the link just now (my bookmarks are a real mess :-( ). I'll be sure and post it if I run across it.

Poking around on Bugzilla, I found only seven reports that mention Pavilion (none that mention 761n) and most of these are closed and are for older releases. And no common thread that seemed to be present in any of those reports.

Wonder where the advice to disable plug-n-play came from? I currently have it enabled on by Gigabyte m'board and have had no problems. (But then my board doesn't seem to be as ``all-in-one'' as Tegapath's.) I guess I'd try turning it on and seeing what changes.

This is a puzzler.

fancypiper · 02-13-2003, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tegapath
ooh, while Im asking questions, is there a better distro I ould be using that would have more support for hardware, and come in ISO format, ftp installs are a pain in the ass with my nick and I have the bandwidth for DL'ing ISOs.

Hardware support is in the kernel with the exception of things like the nvidia drivers, etc. The general rule of thumb: later kernel version = more hardware support.

# Redhat links
Red Hat Linux Manuals
Maximum RPM
rpmfind
Easier software management: APT-RPM - Red Carpet

# Redhat 8.0 configuration commands
Configure soundcard:
redhat-config-soundcard
Configure X server:
redhat-config-xfree86

# Cheap CDs
Discount Linux CDs
Linux Central
Cheapbytes
TuxCDs
ComputerHelperGuy

annehoog · 02-13-2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by rnturn
No. I thought it might have been that he'd tried to run them as a non-root user but even that works... as long as you prefix everything with `/sbin/'. Dang.

Yep, in Redhat most utils aren't in your path so always try it with the full path,
/sbin/lsmod for instance should always work,

I also had problems with sound, but with alsa (installed form freshrpm psyche section) it works beautifully.

For Nvidia, please read the how to's posted in their forum, they are very precise and detailed.

Anne

rnturn · 02-13-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by annehoog
Yep, in Redhat most utils aren't in your path so always try it with the full path,

Well it all depends on what utilities you're trying to use. For the account that I'm using right now, Mozilla, Emacs, pdflatex, and Acrobat or ghostview are easy to get at without having to resort to a fully qualified path (thank $DIETY for that! :-) ) Stuff that's in /sbin /usr/sbin typically isn't the sort of utility that an average user is going to need. If you're still trying to configure hardware, you should probably be logged in as root anyway and all those utilities are in your PATH.

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I also had problems with sound, but with alsa (installed form freshrpm psyche section) it works beautifully.

Slightly, offtopic but did I read correctly a while back that ALSA was to be the sound driver in the 2.6 kernel?

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For Nvidia, please read the how to's posted in their forum, they are very precise and detailed.

Some people, apparently, find all the detail confusing. Go figure.