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avt3kk 02-17-2006 05:04 AM

I found linuxfromscratch need help
 
I never compiled in my life but I talked to a friend that said I need the LFS and the live cd. I have no idea what to do with it all but hes moved and I am stuck; I dont even know how to begin. the idea was to use both of these and build my own version of linux. If you could please give me some advice on how I should start to learn the procceses I need to do; maybe drop me some links that would lead me to what I what to do. That would be great; thankyou for all your help in advance:study:

Vulpus 02-17-2006 05:29 AM

IMHO I think you should take a look at Gentoo first. It seems to be a good half-way house between a 'standard' distro and what you want to do. I think installing Gentoo will give you useful info on how linux works. Take a look here:
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/0...too-linux.html

I must say it is not my idea of fun though, give me SUSE and lovely graphical installers any day!

pixellany 02-17-2006 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by avt3kk
I never compiled in my life but I talked to a friend that said I need the LFS and the live cd. I have no idea what to do with it all but hes moved and I am stuck; I dont even know how to begin. the idea was to use both of these and build my own version of linux. If you could please give me some advice on how I should start to learn the procceses I need to do; maybe drop me some links that would lead me to what I what to do. That would be great; thankyou for all your help in advance:study:

If you are a Linux beginner, then why would you want to torture yourself with the most difficult way to install a system?
You can install any of the modern free distros and learn to compile and install SW from there.
What IS your experience? Are you running Linux now?
Have you visited the LFS website: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

avt3kk 02-17-2006 09:59 AM

noob
 
I have never actualy learned about linux but im a windows nerd and I can handle alot of stuff that could happen in it. I have installed about 12 linux cds but unsure what to do from there. Im looking for something that has the most usefull software sutch for streaming music mplayer I have seen many linux photos on the net:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...magesr&start=1
that look realy customized and thats what im goin for. Is there some live cds that look like this at all that I could install? lol I have patiance and have alot of freetime on my hands so im willing to take a harder route to get a better outcome in the end. Thankyou for all your posts assisting me to get myself ontrack. I have no idea how linux even works or how to do many regular maintenance tasks or even linux; unix terminal codes I have no idea about. I think anyone can do windows but its the rare few that have the patience to go a far distance to learn the inner workings of linux to make their choice of an os just the way they like it. LFS says it has some automated process after you get everything in place to install with. I have ubuntu on vmware on xp pro because its the easiest to get the internet working on.

foo_bar_foo 02-17-2006 10:23 AM

well in anutshell to install LFS you follow the instructions step by step in the book !

avt3kk 02-17-2006 11:01 AM

gentoo
 
I decided to get the full Gentoo package pcc-2005.1 iso to begin my linux learning adventure.

pixellany 02-17-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avt3kk
I have no idea how linux even works or how to do many regular maintenance tasks or even linux; unix terminal codes I have no idea about. I think anyone can do windows but its the rare few that have the patience to go a far distance to learn the inner workings of linux to make their choice of an os just the way they like it. LFS says it has some automated process after you get everything in place to install with. I have ubuntu on vmware on xp pro because its the easiest to get the internet working on.

I still believe you are better off learning a bit more about Linux before attempting to build from scratch. You should at least:
--be comfortable with the file system, directory structure, etc.
--know the CLI commands pretty thoroughly
--know how to compile and install from source

avt3kk 02-17-2006 11:19 AM

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I still believe you are better off learning a bit more about Linux before attempting to build from scratch. You should at least:
--be comfortable with the file system, directory structure, etc.
--know the CLI commands pretty thoroughly
--know how to compile and install from source
pixellany were do I begin to look to get farmilure with linux operating and maintenace and file structure ect?

pljvaldez 02-17-2006 01:17 PM

My :twocents::

1) Get a live CD like Knoppix, Mepis, PCLinuxOS, etc and use that to get semi comfortable with linux
2) Go to the Linux Documentation Project to read up on how to do stuff, also check out the RUTE user's guide.
3) Google for "Beginner linux command line" and "Beginner linux tutorial", there's lots of online tutorials to help you out.
4) Install a distro to the hard drive
5) Install some software from the distro's repository (pre packaged software)
6) Try installing something from source
7) Then try a more technical distro like slackware or gentoo
8) Finally, when you're really really comfortable, try Linux From Scratch.

Take the quizes in my signature to help pick a distro.

avt3kk 02-17-2006 02:07 PM

thankyou so much
 
pljvaldez your an angel in discuse. thankyou for pointing me onto the correct path :cool:

stealth_banana 02-17-2006 02:44 PM

I have done lfs, (alas its no more) but once you think you know linux, try lfs, there is no better way to get to understand the system and how linux works.

It takes bloody ages to install an even halfway useable system and thats even before you try installing X and a GUI.

I found it very handy to do it on another PC with a running available system next to it for reference, once you get it to a certain level, you can ssh into it and do it remotely, which saves a lot of chair moving.


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