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Old 03-14-2014, 06:55 PM   #1
Norbert Dentressangle
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I Don't Even Know How To Try Linux. Help!


Well, this not a great start. I have my Linux Mint and Ubuntu disks in my hands, downloaded and burned my friend at the comouter shop, because I don't have any means of downloading from the internet right now.

I've put the Mint disk in to Laptop to try it out before installing but I don't know what to do after that.

Then I tried the Ubuntu disk, which immediately autoplayed but immediately the threw up a box saying that Lunux needs more space on my hard disk than is available. I don't want to install just yet, but try it out live.

I tried the disk in the drive and restarting my computer but or just boys into Windows.

So I tried pressing F2 to enter Setup but my computer prompted me to enter a password. I did not know my computer required a password. I bought the computer about 7 or 8 years ago second hand and never needed to enter set upT. I'm still using the same shop which sold me this machine but I doubt they would remember the password for this machine from so many years ago.

I don't even know if I need to enter setup anyway but just thought I might need to, in order to set the boot priority to CDROM.

In fact, I don't really know anything. Can you help me please? I'd like to try Linux but don't know how.

I'm accessing this site on my phone.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 07:11 PM   #2
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Sounds like you need to change your BIOS in setup, so you can boot from CD. I would try just hitting "enter" when it asks for a password in setup, chances are one hasn't been set.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 08:14 PM   #3
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Look online for the user guide of your computer, there it will tell you what to do to boot from the disk and how to get in the BIOS and reset BIOS password in case there is a password.
I have also seen live sessions asking for password but I just try a different distro if that is the case. in some other case using the word root as password works just fine.

If Linux Mint doesnt boot chances are it can be a bad disk or a bad download, try to burn it on a different disk or ask your friend to download it again.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 08:55 PM   #4
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Thanks. I have tried hitting 'enter' but to no avail. It didn't seem to be the fact I happen to have the Linux disk in the drive that's causing the computer to ask for a password but that someone evidently set a password in the first place. This is the first time I've ever tired to access the BIOS in this machine.

If it's possible to just find instructions on removing/ changing the password, without needing the original password, then what's the point of having password protection in the fist place?

Not meaning to sound rude at all. Just rather boggled out by it, that's all.

Sure, I will try these options you have suggested. Thanks.

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Old 03-14-2014, 10:47 PM   #5
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Some (perhaps most) computers will let you override the default boot device if you press a certain key at the BIOS POST screen, just before the OS boots. Common keys are F12, F11 and F8, but your computer may provice clues on the POST screen itself.

If you want to try Linux without installing it, you need a "Live" CD/DVD. A Live DVD is not necessarily the same as an installation DVD, though some distributions do have DVDs that can be used as both.

Alternatively, you could install VirtualBox in Windows and create a Virtual Machine for Linux. VirtualBox is free and Linux is well-supported, but messing with Virtual Machines before you've even tried Linux may be a slightly steeper learning curve than you're prepared to climb. VirtualBox is quite user-friendly, though, and there are a few good HowTos on the 'net (and some good videos on YouTube).
 
Old 03-14-2014, 11:19 PM   #6
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Cheers! Anyway, I tried hitting F12 (which is the boot menu) instead of trying to enter setup and changed the order to CDROM. The computer seems to be booting into Ubuntu now. Albeit slowly...

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Old 03-14-2014, 11:34 PM   #7
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Is it usually this slow, when running from the live CD? It's quite difficult to know if I will like it or not, from this. In fact, it now seems to have frozen. Hmm... first impressions not good, if I'm to be honest. Has anyone else had this problem?
 
Old 03-14-2014, 11:46 PM   #8
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Any OS running from a Live CD is likely to be quite slow, as the seek times for a CD/DVD laser can be as much as two orders of magnitude greater than those of a hard drive. The transfer rate isn't all that great either, although it compares more favorably to a hard drive than the seek performance.

If you can create a Live Linux system on a USB stick, you'll get a much better feel for how the OS will perform if installed on your system. USB sticks are not as fast as hard drives, but the seek time is close to 0 since there are no mechanical parts involved.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 12:27 AM   #9
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Thanks. I'll try that later. I don't know why they don't just take away the CD drive option. It does not offer a good impression of an operating system which claims to be fast and smooth. :/

Ack! Now it's just frozen again. Nasty.

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Old 03-15-2014, 12:31 AM   #10
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Help! I can't even turn the computer off now! Bad impression!
 
Old 03-15-2014, 12:36 AM   #11
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What are the basic specs of this computer - cpu, speed, ram, maybe the make and model?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 01:17 AM   #12
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Help! I can't even turn the computer off now! Bad impression!
You're running everything from a DVD, so if the "shutdown" function won't work for some reason, you can just hold down the power button for 8-10 seconds.

The reason this is strongly discouraged under normal circumstances, is that there's a risk of data loss if file system on the hard drive doesn't get shut down properly, but that's obviously not an issue when the hard drive isn't in use, and CDs/DVDs can't be damaged in that way as they are read-only media.

Having said that, the shutdown function should obviously work every bit as well in Linux as it does in Windows.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 03:53 AM   #13
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Try booting using a USB stick, as it will be much faster than CD/DVD.
Or you can to find a distro which allows you to load the CD to ram (assuming you have enough memory to do it).
By the way what is the spec on your laptop (make, model, cpu, ram, etc)?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 10:22 AM   #14
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Well, now my techie is having trouble installing the graphics drivers for the Sony Vaio. It's been two weeks and I'm actually losing patience fast. I'll have to go back to Windows and then I have an old Toshiba machine I'd like to experiment with on a dial boot.

Evidently Linux is not a replacement for a stable operating system. My curiosity drives me to persue it as a science project, but realistically, if my techie is having this much trouble getting Linux off the ground on a respected brand of ccomputer, then I'm not sure how much of a chance I stand.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 10:57 AM   #15
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Yeah man. No offence but if you are not willing to learn, then Linux might not be for you and you will have a terrible time each time you use your computer. Might be a better idea to stick with what is familiar to you. You tried man and it is not doing it for you, nothing wrong with that.

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